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    <title>topic Re: 5 intervention groups and ordinal outcomes in Statistical Procedures</title>
    <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/5-intervention-groups-and-ordinal-outcomes/m-p/274083#M14446</link>
    <description>&lt;P&gt;If you are writing a grant for a clinical trial, you should have access to a biostatistician somewhere at your institution. &amp;nbsp;These are the kinds of questions they are paid to answer. &amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;Sample size questions depend on the analytical method and on what you consider to be the detectable effect size. &amp;nbsp;For categorical variables, 60 participants = 12 per group. this would be adequate to detect a difference that would look like 10% in one group and 70% in another (two-tailed test, alpha=0.05, power=80%). &amp;nbsp;If you wish to detect a smaller effect size, you would likely need many more participants per group.&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;Good luck, and sit down with a biostatistician as soon as you can.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Steve Denham&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Tue, 31 May 2016 13:12:03 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>SteveDenham</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2016-05-31T13:12:03Z</dc:date>
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      <title>5 intervention groups and ordinal outcomes</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/5-intervention-groups-and-ordinal-outcomes/m-p/274028#M14441</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi...I am trying to write a grant for a clinical trial with 5 intervention groups and the following outcome:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;positive behavior change&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;no change&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;negative behavior change.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;what test would I use? &amp;nbsp;Would 60 participants likely be enough?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Also, we are going to have a continuous scale with the same interventions&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;What test would I use.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Thank you very much!&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I am going to be using the newest version of SAS. &amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 31 May 2016 06:37:35 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>elisabethpaige</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-05-31T06:37:35Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: 5 intervention groups and ordinal outcomes</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/5-intervention-groups-and-ordinal-outcomes/m-p/274083#M14446</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;If you are writing a grant for a clinical trial, you should have access to a biostatistician somewhere at your institution. &amp;nbsp;These are the kinds of questions they are paid to answer. &amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Sample size questions depend on the analytical method and on what you consider to be the detectable effect size. &amp;nbsp;For categorical variables, 60 participants = 12 per group. this would be adequate to detect a difference that would look like 10% in one group and 70% in another (two-tailed test, alpha=0.05, power=80%). &amp;nbsp;If you wish to detect a smaller effect size, you would likely need many more participants per group.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Good luck, and sit down with a biostatistician as soon as you can.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Steve Denham&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 31 May 2016 13:12:03 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/5-intervention-groups-and-ordinal-outcomes/m-p/274083#M14446</guid>
      <dc:creator>SteveDenham</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-05-31T13:12:03Z</dc:date>
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