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    <title>topic Re: repeated measures of scores in Statistical Procedures</title>
    <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/repeated-measures-of-scores/m-p/249660#M13127</link>
    <description>&lt;P&gt;I'm not an expert, but I think generalized estimating equations (GEEs) are the generalizaton you are looking for.&amp;nbsp; SAS released the &lt;A href="http://support.sas.com/documentation/cdl/en/statug/68162/HTML/default/viewer.htm#statug_gee_overview.htm" target="_self"&gt;GEE procedure in SAS/STAT 13.2.&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;If you are running an older version of SAS, there are some GEE options in PROC GENMOD. For ideas, read this 2006 paper on &lt;A href="http://www.lexjansen.com/pharmasug/2006/StatisticsPharmacokinetics/SP08.pdf" target="_self"&gt;"Analyzing Ordinal Repeated Measures Data Using SAS"&lt;/A&gt;&amp;nbsp;which shows several examples. An even older paper is this 1997 paper on&amp;nbsp;&lt;A href="http://www2.sas.com/proceedings/sugi22/STATS/PAPER278.PDF" target="_self"&gt;"Repeated Measures Analysis with Discrete Data Using the SAS System."&lt;/A&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2016 13:47:18 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>Rick_SAS</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2016-02-12T13:47:18Z</dc:date>
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      <title>repeated measures of scores</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/repeated-measures-of-scores/m-p/249630#M13125</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I am doing analysis of a scores ( 0 to 5) taken repeatedly over time (21 consecutive sectionsequally spaced) &amp;nbsp;in two treatment groups. Since it is not normally distributed which would be the best statistical procedure? I am not statistician, I am epidemiologist. I usually work with repeated measures with normal distribution using mixed models and so.. but I am having trouble to get the best analysis for these scores. I was reading about harsh models but I am not sure if it would be appropriate. Would rasch model appropriated? It would sum up items for individuals but I am not sure if it would work. It is the same measure over time.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2016 13:42:40 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>mdsaraiv</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-02-12T13:42:40Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: repeated measures of scores</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/repeated-measures-of-scores/m-p/249660#M13127</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I'm not an expert, but I think generalized estimating equations (GEEs) are the generalizaton you are looking for.&amp;nbsp; SAS released the &lt;A href="http://support.sas.com/documentation/cdl/en/statug/68162/HTML/default/viewer.htm#statug_gee_overview.htm" target="_self"&gt;GEE procedure in SAS/STAT 13.2.&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;If you are running an older version of SAS, there are some GEE options in PROC GENMOD. For ideas, read this 2006 paper on &lt;A href="http://www.lexjansen.com/pharmasug/2006/StatisticsPharmacokinetics/SP08.pdf" target="_self"&gt;"Analyzing Ordinal Repeated Measures Data Using SAS"&lt;/A&gt;&amp;nbsp;which shows several examples. An even older paper is this 1997 paper on&amp;nbsp;&lt;A href="http://www2.sas.com/proceedings/sugi22/STATS/PAPER278.PDF" target="_self"&gt;"Repeated Measures Analysis with Discrete Data Using the SAS System."&lt;/A&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2016 13:47:18 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Rick_SAS</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-02-12T13:47:18Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: repeated measures of scores</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/repeated-measures-of-scores/m-p/249706#M13129</link>
      <description>Thanks so much, I will read and see if makes sense for my data. I will get&lt;BR /&gt;back if it works.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;##- Please type your reply above this line. Simple formatting, no&lt;BR /&gt;attachments. -##</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 12 Feb 2016 15:37:17 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>mdsaraiv</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-02-12T15:37:17Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: repeated measures of scores</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/repeated-measures-of-scores/m-p/250160#M13177</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I would certainly start with PROC GEE, as Rick states, and in particular I would look at this example in the documentation:&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;&lt;A href="http://support.sas.com/documentation/cdl/en/statug/68162/HTML/default/viewer.htm#statug_gee_examples05.htm" target="_blank"&gt;http://support.sas.com/documentation/cdl/en/statug/68162/HTML/default/viewer.htm#statug_gee_examples05.htm&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp; More generally, I would use PROC GLIMMIX, and treat the data as coming from a multinomial distribution. &amp;nbsp;However, in GLIMMIX as opposed to GEE, the model will be fit as conditional on the random effect, rather than as a marginal over the random effect (which is time in this case). &amp;nbsp;The marginal log odds ratios will tend to be biased toward the mean compared to the conditional log odds ratios.&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;Steve Denham&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 15 Feb 2016 19:48:12 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>SteveDenham</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-02-15T19:48:12Z</dc:date>
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