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    <title>topic Generalized estimating equation output in Statistical Procedures</title>
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    <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-family: 'times new roman', times; font-size: 12pt;"&gt;Dear all,&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-family: 'times new roman', times; font-size: 12pt;"&gt;How are you?&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-family: 'times new roman', times; font-size: 12pt;"&gt;I am analyzing my data with only 2 continuous outcome repeated measures from each individuals(total=1320) with a GEE model with unstructured correlation structure.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-family: 'times new roman', times; font-size: 12pt;"&gt;I am not familiar with GEE but as far as I understand, QIC is for comparing the appropriateness of correlation structure and QICu is for variable selection, which the smallest the value the better. &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-family: 'times new roman', times; font-size: 12pt;"&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-family: 'times new roman', times; font-size: 16px;"&gt;Does it make it a significant predictor i&lt;/SPAN&gt;f the p-value of an effect &amp;lt;0.05 from the 'Score Statistics For Type 3 GEE Analysis' output? In my case, with or without corresponding p-value&amp;lt;0.05 effect doesn't impact the correlation too much. But including the corresponding effect increases the QIC and QICu though not too much. Hence I'm confused about whether to include or exclude such effect.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-family: 'times new roman', times; font-size: 12pt;"&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-family: 'times new roman', times;"&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-size: 12pt;"&gt;Your insight is greatly &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-size: 16px;"&gt;appreciated&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-size: 12pt;"&gt;.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2015 03:34:48 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>Miracle</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2015-03-20T03:34:48Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Generalized estimating equation output</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/Generalized-estimating-equation-output/m-p/206488#M11094</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-family: 'times new roman', times; font-size: 12pt;"&gt;Dear all,&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-family: 'times new roman', times; font-size: 12pt;"&gt;How are you?&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-family: 'times new roman', times; font-size: 12pt;"&gt;I am analyzing my data with only 2 continuous outcome repeated measures from each individuals(total=1320) with a GEE model with unstructured correlation structure.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-family: 'times new roman', times; font-size: 12pt;"&gt;I am not familiar with GEE but as far as I understand, QIC is for comparing the appropriateness of correlation structure and QICu is for variable selection, which the smallest the value the better. &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-family: 'times new roman', times; font-size: 12pt;"&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-family: 'times new roman', times; font-size: 16px;"&gt;Does it make it a significant predictor i&lt;/SPAN&gt;f the p-value of an effect &amp;lt;0.05 from the 'Score Statistics For Type 3 GEE Analysis' output? In my case, with or without corresponding p-value&amp;lt;0.05 effect doesn't impact the correlation too much. But including the corresponding effect increases the QIC and QICu though not too much. Hence I'm confused about whether to include or exclude such effect.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-family: 'times new roman', times; font-size: 12pt;"&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-family: 'times new roman', times;"&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-size: 12pt;"&gt;Your insight is greatly &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-size: 16px;"&gt;appreciated&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-size: 12pt;"&gt;.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 20 Mar 2015 03:34:48 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Miracle</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-03-20T03:34:48Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Generalized estimating equation output</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/Statistical-Procedures/Generalized-estimating-equation-output/m-p/206489#M11095</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;The score type3 test is a test of the predictor's association with the response.&amp;nbsp; This is generally what you would use to assess the value of having the predictor in the model.&amp;nbsp; It is not a test of its effect on the correlation among the measurements.&amp;nbsp; But adding or removing predictors may effect the estimates of the correlation.&amp;nbsp; The QIC statistics don't have a measure of variability, so it is not possible to say if adding or removing a predictor has a "significant" effect on QIC.&amp;nbsp; &lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 03 Apr 2015 17:38:36 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>StatDave</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-04-03T17:38:36Z</dc:date>
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