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    <title>topic Problem using Proc GLIMMIX in SAS Procedures</title>
    <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/SAS-Procedures/Problem-using-Proc-GLIMMIX/m-p/38127#M9744</link>
    <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;Hi,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;When I was trying to fit Proc Glimmix model, I found the following message repeatedly.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;"&lt;STRONG&gt;WARNING: Obtaining minimum variance quadratic unbiased estimates as starting values for the&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; covariance parameters failed&lt;/STRONG&gt;."&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;My SAS code is the following.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #0000ff;"&gt;ods html;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #0000ff;"&gt;ods graphics on&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #0000ff;"&gt;proc glimmix data=malaria INITGLM NOBOUND asycov asycorr oddsratio ORDER=DATA MAXOPT=100 METHOD=RSPL;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #0000ff;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; class sex s1_03&amp;nbsp; s1_12 s1_07 s2_01 s2_02 s2_03 s2_04 s2_05 s2_06 rm1_08 rm1_09 rm1_10 rm1_14 n01_115t;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #0000ff;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; model rdt_res = age sex famsize s1_03 s1_13 s2_01 s2_02 s2_03 s2_04 s2_05 s2_06 tot_room rm1_08 &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #0000ff;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; rm1_09 rm1_10 rm1_11 rm1_12 rm1_14 rm1_nets n01_115t s2_01*rm1_09 s2_02*rm1_10 &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #0000ff;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; age*sex sex*s2_01 sex*s2_04 sex*rm1_10 /dist = binary solution covb corrb DDFM=BETWITHIN;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #0000ff;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; random intercept/&amp;nbsp; subject = s1_07;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #0000ff;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; Covtest GLM ; Covtest&amp;nbsp; DIAGG ; Covtest&amp;nbsp; DIAGR ; Covtest&amp;nbsp; HOMOGENEITY ; Covtest&amp;nbsp; START ;Covtest&amp;nbsp; ZEROG ;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #0000ff;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; weight Weight;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #0000ff;"&gt;run;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #0000ff;"&gt;ods graphics off;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #0000ff;"&gt;ods html close;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I need help. Please could any one give me a solution?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Regards,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Thu, 28 Jul 2011 12:52:15 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>daw</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2011-07-28T12:52:15Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Problem using Proc GLIMMIX</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/SAS-Procedures/Problem-using-Proc-GLIMMIX/m-p/38127#M9744</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;Hi,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;When I was trying to fit Proc Glimmix model, I found the following message repeatedly.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;"&lt;STRONG&gt;WARNING: Obtaining minimum variance quadratic unbiased estimates as starting values for the&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; covariance parameters failed&lt;/STRONG&gt;."&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;My SAS code is the following.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #0000ff;"&gt;ods html;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #0000ff;"&gt;ods graphics on&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #0000ff;"&gt;proc glimmix data=malaria INITGLM NOBOUND asycov asycorr oddsratio ORDER=DATA MAXOPT=100 METHOD=RSPL;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #0000ff;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; class sex s1_03&amp;nbsp; s1_12 s1_07 s2_01 s2_02 s2_03 s2_04 s2_05 s2_06 rm1_08 rm1_09 rm1_10 rm1_14 n01_115t;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #0000ff;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; model rdt_res = age sex famsize s1_03 s1_13 s2_01 s2_02 s2_03 s2_04 s2_05 s2_06 tot_room rm1_08 &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #0000ff;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; rm1_09 rm1_10 rm1_11 rm1_12 rm1_14 rm1_nets n01_115t s2_01*rm1_09 s2_02*rm1_10 &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #0000ff;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; age*sex sex*s2_01 sex*s2_04 sex*rm1_10 /dist = binary solution covb corrb DDFM=BETWITHIN;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #0000ff;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; random intercept/&amp;nbsp; subject = s1_07;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #0000ff;"&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; Covtest GLM ; Covtest&amp;nbsp; DIAGG ; Covtest&amp;nbsp; DIAGR ; Covtest&amp;nbsp; HOMOGENEITY ; Covtest&amp;nbsp; START ;Covtest&amp;nbsp; ZEROG ;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #0000ff;"&gt;&amp;nbsp; weight Weight;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #0000ff;"&gt;run;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #0000ff;"&gt;ods graphics off;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #0000ff;"&gt;ods html close;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I need help. Please could any one give me a solution?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Regards,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 28 Jul 2011 12:52:15 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://communities.sas.com/t5/SAS-Procedures/Problem-using-Proc-GLIMMIX/m-p/38127#M9744</guid>
      <dc:creator>daw</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2011-07-28T12:52:15Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Problem using Proc GLIMMIX</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/SAS-Procedures/Problem-using-Proc-GLIMMIX/m-p/38128#M9745</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt; This is far from a solution.&amp;nbsp; I count 15 classification variables (I don't know how many levels for each, and some of which do not appear in the model statement, e.g. s1_12), and 8 continuous covariates (age, famsize, s1_13, tot_rm, rm1_11, rm1_12, rm1_nets, and age*sex).&amp;nbsp; Some of these look like classification variables as well, but you may well wish to treat them as continuous.&amp;nbsp; &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;So, I wonder about two things--complete collinearity (or separation) between some of the continuous covariates, and whether there is enough data to estimate everything.&amp;nbsp; &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Given that these are not problems, what happens if you delete the INITGLM option?&amp;nbsp; You may still get mivque(0) problems, but it is a cheap try.&amp;nbsp; I would also try dropping the ddfm=betwithin, as I don't see any within subject variability being modeled.&amp;nbsp; As a last resort, try running this in PROC MIXED and save the covariance parameters to a data set that you call as starting values with a PARMS statement.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 28 Jul 2011 14:21:14 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://communities.sas.com/t5/SAS-Procedures/Problem-using-Proc-GLIMMIX/m-p/38128#M9745</guid>
      <dc:creator>SteveDenham</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2011-07-28T14:21:14Z</dc:date>
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