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    <title>topic Re: NLMixed:  Upper Limit on number of Random Effects in SAS Procedures</title>
    <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/SAS-Procedures/NLMixed-Upper-Limit-on-number-of-Random-Effects/m-p/34776#M8522</link>
    <description>The technical upper limit is much higher than the practical upper limit.&lt;BR /&gt;
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Check the documentation for computational problems and computational resources.  A couple of things are likely to be going on.&lt;BR /&gt;
1) you have run out of real memory and the system is swapping&lt;BR /&gt;
2) by adding additional random effects, the model is no longer as well specified and the algorithm is having a hard time converging. &lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
1) invites a hardware solution.&lt;BR /&gt;
2) requires skull time and data investigation.</description>
    <pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 22:00:14 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>Doc_Duke</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2008-07-29T22:00:14Z</dc:date>
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      <title>NLMixed:  Upper Limit on number of Random Effects</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/SAS-Procedures/NLMixed-Upper-Limit-on-number-of-Random-Effects/m-p/34775#M8521</link>
      <description>Can anyone tell me what the upper limit is for the number of random effects in NLMIXED?  I get a model to run with 2 REs.  I see an example in the documentation with 3.  I could use 4.  The software doesn't object to a submission of 4 but wants to take forever and I've not yet gotten a set of results.&lt;BR /&gt;
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Thanks.&lt;BR /&gt;
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T&lt;BR /&gt;
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      <pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 13:01:08 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:date>2008-07-29T13:01:08Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: NLMixed:  Upper Limit on number of Random Effects</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/SAS-Procedures/NLMixed-Upper-Limit-on-number-of-Random-Effects/m-p/34776#M8522</link>
      <description>The technical upper limit is much higher than the practical upper limit.&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
Check the documentation for computational problems and computational resources.  A couple of things are likely to be going on.&lt;BR /&gt;
1) you have run out of real memory and the system is swapping&lt;BR /&gt;
2) by adding additional random effects, the model is no longer as well specified and the algorithm is having a hard time converging. &lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
1) invites a hardware solution.&lt;BR /&gt;
2) requires skull time and data investigation.</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 29 Jul 2008 22:00:14 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://communities.sas.com/t5/SAS-Procedures/NLMixed-Upper-Limit-on-number-of-Random-Effects/m-p/34776#M8522</guid>
      <dc:creator>Doc_Duke</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2008-07-29T22:00:14Z</dc:date>
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