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    <title>topic Re: Estimating Genetic and Environmental Components from Proc Mixed (or HPmixed) in SAS Procedures</title>
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    <description>&lt;P&gt;I haven't done genetics by environment interaction analyses in years. The best I can come up with to get started in SAS is actually PROC HPLMIXED. The one example is Computing BLUPs for a Large Number of Subjects. If that example isn't really applicable due to its assumption of known variance and covariance values, then HPMIXED would almost certainly be a better choice than MIXED.&amp;nbsp; And I realize that my answer is pretty vague.&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;SteveDenham&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Wed, 26 Oct 2022 14:12:36 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>SteveDenham</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2022-10-26T14:12:36Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Estimating Genetic and Environmental Components from Proc Mixed (or HPmixed)</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/SAS-Procedures/Estimating-Genetic-and-Environmental-Components-from-Proc-Mixed/m-p/840682#M82149</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I have a data set of pairs of ‘siblings’ from the NLSY which includes MZ twins (RRfull=1), DZ twins and full-siblings (RRfull=0.5), half siblings (RRfull=0.25) and same sex twins of uncertain zygosity (RRfull=0.75).&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I have analysed the data using OpenMX. the estimates are.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;For height the OpenMx A,C and E estimates are: &amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;TABLE&gt;&lt;TBODY&gt;&lt;TR&gt;&lt;TD&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;EM&gt;Measure&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;EM&gt;Additive Genetic&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;EM&gt;Common Environment&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;EM&gt;Unique Environment.&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;EM&gt;Age&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;EM&gt;Male&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;EM&gt;D of F&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;/TR&gt;&lt;TR&gt;&lt;TD&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;EM&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;EM&gt;A&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;EM&gt;95% CI&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;EM&gt;C&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;EM&gt;95% CI&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;EM&gt;E &lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;EM&gt;95% CI&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;EM&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;EM&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;EM&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;/TR&gt;&lt;TR&gt;&lt;TD&gt;&lt;P&gt;Height (Age ge 18)&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;&lt;P&gt;0.74&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;&lt;P&gt;[0.51,0.88]&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;&lt;P&gt;0.10&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;&lt;P&gt;[0.01,0.21]&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;&lt;P&gt;0.16&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;&lt;P&gt;[0.09,0.28]&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;&lt;P&gt;0.00&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;&lt;P&gt;5.7***&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;&lt;P&gt;4481&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;/TR&gt;&lt;/TBODY&gt;&lt;/TABLE&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;This looks pretty good.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I am an experienced SAS user, but I cannot get proc mixed to return similar estimates from the McArdle 2005 paper.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;McArdle, J. J. and C. A. Prescott. 2005. "Mixed Effects Variance Components Models for Biometric Family Analyses." Behavior Genetics 35:631-52.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I realize that&amp;nbsp;Mixed Effects Variance Components Models for Biometric Family Analyses is now more likely done in proc hpmixed. I tried to contact these authors, but the senior author is on medical leave and I think the second author has died.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Prescott, C. A., McArdle, J. J., Achorn, D. L., Kaiser, A., &amp;amp; Lapham, S. (2012, October). Applying Project Talent sibling and classmate data to evaluate&amp;nbsp;community and family influences on cognitive abilities. Paper presented at&amp;nbsp;the Annual Meeting of the Society of Multivariate Experimental Psychology, Vancouver, BC, USA.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I can't locate this or similar articles.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I’ve tried many models, but A is nowhere near 0.74. C is usually about twice that of A.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I include a regression model for age and sex as is standard in twin studies.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I am sure my syntax is wrong, but I am not sure where. &amp;nbsp;Could someone please help me and indicate what I got wrong.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Thanks&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Gary Marks&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Sociology, University of Melbourne&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;title "Building Relational Weights"; /*trying to follow McArdle and Prescott 2005*/&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;data&lt;/STRONG&gt; sim_rel;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;set gen2.Rsib_pairs;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;if RRfull in(&lt;STRONG&gt;1&lt;/STRONG&gt;,&lt;STRONG&gt;0.75&lt;/STRONG&gt;,&lt;STRONG&gt;0.5&lt;/STRONG&gt;,&lt;STRONG&gt;0.25&lt;/STRONG&gt;);&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;famid=g1_family_ID;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;weightAC=&lt;STRONG&gt;0&lt;/STRONG&gt;; weightAM=&lt;STRONG&gt;0&lt;/STRONG&gt;; weightAU1=&lt;STRONG&gt;0&lt;/STRONG&gt;; weightAU2=&lt;STRONG&gt;0&lt;/STRONG&gt;; weightAU3=&lt;STRONG&gt;0&lt;/STRONG&gt;; weightAU4=&lt;STRONG&gt;0&lt;/STRONG&gt;;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;weightSU1=&lt;STRONG&gt;0&lt;/STRONG&gt;; weightSU2=&lt;STRONG&gt;0&lt;/STRONG&gt;; weightSU3=&lt;STRONG&gt;0&lt;/STRONG&gt;; weightSU4=&lt;STRONG&gt;0&lt;/STRONG&gt;;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;ST=&lt;STRONG&gt;0&lt;/STRONG&gt;; /* wherev does Sib and ST appear in proc mixed*/&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Sib=&lt;STRONG&gt;1&lt;/STRONG&gt;;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;if RRfull in(&lt;STRONG&gt;1&lt;/STRONG&gt; &lt;STRONG&gt;0.75&lt;/STRONG&gt;) then ST=&lt;STRONG&gt;1&lt;/STRONG&gt;;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;*MZ Twins;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;if RRfull in(&lt;STRONG&gt;1&lt;/STRONG&gt;) then do;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;weightAC=sqrt(&lt;STRONG&gt;0.5&lt;/STRONG&gt;);&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;weightAM=&lt;STRONG&gt;1&lt;/STRONG&gt;;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;weightAU1=&lt;STRONG&gt;0&lt;/STRONG&gt;;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;end;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;*Second ID Twins Unclear;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;if RRfull=&lt;STRONG&gt;0.75&lt;/STRONG&gt; then do;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;weightAC=sqrt(&lt;STRONG&gt;0.75&lt;/STRONG&gt;);&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;weightAU2=sqrt(&lt;STRONG&gt;0.25&lt;/STRONG&gt;);&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;weightSU1=&lt;STRONG&gt;1&lt;/STRONG&gt;;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;end;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;height=sib2_height;male=sib2_male; age=sib2_age;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;person=(famid*&lt;STRONG&gt;10&lt;/STRONG&gt;)+&lt;STRONG&gt;1&lt;/STRONG&gt;;Nper_fam=&lt;STRONG&gt;2&lt;/STRONG&gt;;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;*FULL SIBLING WEIGHTS;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;*First Sibling;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;if RRfull=&lt;STRONG&gt;0.5&lt;/STRONG&gt; then do;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;weightAC=sqrt(&lt;STRONG&gt;0.5&lt;/STRONG&gt;);&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;weightAU3=sqrt(&lt;STRONG&gt;0.5&lt;/STRONG&gt;);&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;weightSU2=&lt;STRONG&gt;1&lt;/STRONG&gt;;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;end;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;height=sib1_height;male=sib1_male; age=sib1_age;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;person=(famid*&lt;STRONG&gt;10&lt;/STRONG&gt;)+&lt;STRONG&gt;1&lt;/STRONG&gt;;Nper_fam=&lt;STRONG&gt;1&lt;/STRONG&gt;;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;*HALF SIBLINGS;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;*Half Sibling weights Sib1;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;if RRfull=&lt;STRONG&gt;0.25&lt;/STRONG&gt; then do;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;weightAC=sqrt(&lt;STRONG&gt;0.25&lt;/STRONG&gt;);&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;weightAU4=sqrt(&lt;STRONG&gt;0.75&lt;/STRONG&gt;);&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;weightSU3=&lt;STRONG&gt;1&lt;/STRONG&gt;;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;end;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;*Assign and output values for sibling 1;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;height=sib1_height; male=sib1_male; age=sib1_age;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;person=(famid*&lt;STRONG&gt;10&lt;/STRONG&gt;)+&lt;STRONG&gt;1&lt;/STRONG&gt;;Nper_fam=&lt;STRONG&gt;1&lt;/STRONG&gt;;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;if Nper_fam=&lt;STRONG&gt;1&lt;/STRONG&gt; then do;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;weightE1=&lt;STRONG&gt;1&lt;/STRONG&gt;; weightE2=&lt;STRONG&gt;0&lt;/STRONG&gt;;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;end;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;output;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;*Second ID Twins Unclear;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;if RRfull=&lt;STRONG&gt;0.75&lt;/STRONG&gt; then do;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;weightAC=sqrt(&lt;STRONG&gt;0.75&lt;/STRONG&gt;);&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;weightAU2=sqrt(&lt;STRONG&gt;0.25&lt;/STRONG&gt;);&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;weightSU1=&lt;STRONG&gt;1&lt;/STRONG&gt;;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;end;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;height=sib2_height;male=sib2_male; age=sib2_age;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;person=(famid*&lt;STRONG&gt;10&lt;/STRONG&gt;)+&lt;STRONG&gt;1&lt;/STRONG&gt;;Nper_fam=&lt;STRONG&gt;2&lt;/STRONG&gt;;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;*Second Sibling;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;if RRfull=&lt;STRONG&gt;0.5&lt;/STRONG&gt; then do;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;weightAC=sqrt(&lt;STRONG&gt;0.5&lt;/STRONG&gt;);&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;weightAU3=sqrt(&lt;STRONG&gt;0.5&lt;/STRONG&gt;);&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;weightSU2=&lt;STRONG&gt;1&lt;/STRONG&gt;;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;end;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;*Assign and output values for sibling;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;height=sib2_height;male=sib2_male; age=sib2_age;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;person=(famid*&lt;STRONG&gt;10&lt;/STRONG&gt;)+&lt;STRONG&gt;2&lt;/STRONG&gt;;Nper_fam=&lt;STRONG&gt;2&lt;/STRONG&gt;;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;*Half Sibling weights Sib2;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;if RRfull=&lt;STRONG&gt;0.25&lt;/STRONG&gt; then do;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;weightAC=sqrt(&lt;STRONG&gt;0.25&lt;/STRONG&gt;);&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;eightAU4=sqrt(&lt;STRONG&gt;0.75&lt;/STRONG&gt;);&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;weightSU3=&lt;STRONG&gt;1&lt;/STRONG&gt;;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;end;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;*Assign and output values for sibling 2;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;height=sib2_height;male=sib2_male; age=sib2_age;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;person=(famid*&lt;STRONG&gt;10&lt;/STRONG&gt;)+&lt;STRONG&gt;2&lt;/STRONG&gt;;Nper_fam=&lt;STRONG&gt;2&lt;/STRONG&gt;;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;*assign weights for common factor E;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;if Nper_fam=&lt;STRONG&gt;2&lt;/STRONG&gt; then do; weightE1=&lt;STRONG&gt;0&lt;/STRONG&gt;; weightE2=&lt;STRONG&gt;1&lt;/STRONG&gt;;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;end;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;output;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;keep RRfull famid person weightAC weightAM weightAU1-weightAU4 weightSU1-weightSU3&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Nper_fam weightE1 weightE2 height male age&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Sib ST;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;run&lt;/STRONG&gt;;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;proc&lt;/STRONG&gt; &lt;STRONG&gt;print&lt;/STRONG&gt; data=sim_rel(obs=&lt;STRONG&gt;19&lt;/STRONG&gt;);&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;where rrfull=&lt;STRONG&gt;0.75&lt;/STRONG&gt;;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;run&lt;/STRONG&gt;;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;proc&lt;/STRONG&gt; &lt;STRONG&gt;freq&lt;/STRONG&gt; data=sim_rel;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;tables weightAC weightAM weightAU1-weightAU4 SIB ST;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;run&lt;/STRONG&gt;;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;proc&lt;/STRONG&gt; &lt;STRONG&gt;mixed&lt;/STRONG&gt; data=sim_rel noclprint covtest method=reml;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;class famid;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;model height=male age/solution DDFM=satterth CHISQ; /*Mean and E Variance*/&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;random intercept/subject=famid type=VC; /*S Variance*/&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;random weightAC weightAC weightAU1-weightAU4 sib ST weightSU1-weightSU3&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;/subject=famid type=TOEP(&lt;STRONG&gt;1&lt;/STRONG&gt;); /*A Variance*/&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;ods output CovParms = cov1 nobs=obs;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;run&lt;/STRONG&gt;;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 25 Oct 2022 20:49:00 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>GaryNMarks</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2022-10-25T20:49:00Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Estimating Genetic and Environmental Components from Proc Mixed (or HPmixed)</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/SAS-Procedures/Estimating-Genetic-and-Environmental-Components-from-Proc-Mixed/m-p/840851#M82158</link>
      <description>Calling  &lt;a href="https://communities.sas.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/13633"&gt;@StatDave&lt;/a&gt;  &lt;a href="https://communities.sas.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/15363"&gt;@SteveDenham&lt;/a&gt; &lt;a href="https://communities.sas.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/13758"&gt;@lvm&lt;/a&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 26 Oct 2022 12:37:45 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Ksharp</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2022-10-26T12:37:45Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Estimating Genetic and Environmental Components from Proc Mixed (or HPmixed)</title>
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      <description>&lt;P&gt;I haven't done genetics by environment interaction analyses in years. The best I can come up with to get started in SAS is actually PROC HPLMIXED. The one example is Computing BLUPs for a Large Number of Subjects. If that example isn't really applicable due to its assumption of known variance and covariance values, then HPMIXED would almost certainly be a better choice than MIXED.&amp;nbsp; And I realize that my answer is pretty vague.&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;SteveDenham&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 26 Oct 2022 14:12:36 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>SteveDenham</dc:creator>
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      <title>Re: Estimating Genetic and Environmental Components from Proc Mixed (or HPmixed)</title>
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      <description>Not sure how that helps.&lt;BR /&gt;Is there any have any documentation with SAS code supporting the following papers/conference papers.&lt;BR /&gt;McArdle, J. J. and C. A. Prescott. 2005. "Mixed Effects Variance Components Models for Biometric Family Analyses." Behavior Genetics 35:631-52.&lt;BR /&gt;Arpawong, T. E., E. Walters, M. Gatz, T. L. Gruenewald, J. J. McArdle, S. J. Lapham and Prescott C. A. 2017. "Individual, Family, Community and Genetic Predictors of Educational Attainment " Paper presented at the IAGG World Congress of Gerontology &amp;amp; Geriatrics, July 2017, San Francisco, CA.&lt;BR /&gt;Prescott, C. A., J. J. McArdle, D. L. Achorn, A. Kaiser and S. Lapham. 2012. "Applying Project Talent Sibling and Classmate Data to Evaluate Community and Family Influences on Cognitive Abilities." in Society of Multivariate Experimental Psychology.&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;I think McArdle may have died and Prescott is on medical leave.&lt;BR /&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 26 Oct 2022 21:40:41 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>GaryNMarks</dc:creator>
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      <description>&lt;P&gt;A search through lexjansen.com might give you some SAS oriented papers that use these references.&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;SteveDenham&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 01 Nov 2022 13:44:03 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>SteveDenham</dc:creator>
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