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    <title>topic Re: Bootstrap for repeated measures data in SAS Procedures</title>
    <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/SAS-Procedures/Bootstrap-for-repeated-measures-data/m-p/495246#M72341</link>
    <description>&lt;P&gt;What is the statistic of interest? Is this a one-way ANOVA design with repeated measures or something else?&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;A href="https://blogs.sas.com/content/iml/2017/07/10/bootstrap-sasiml.html" target="_self"&gt;The resampling can be efficient in the SAS/IML matrix language.&lt;/A&gt; Do you plan on using SAS/IML, or are you intending to use the DATA step?&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;In general, your bootstrap&amp;nbsp;resampling should mimic the sampling design&amp;nbsp;that collected the original data. Along with the statistic of interest, a description of your data would be helpful.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Here's an example:&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Each of N subjects has his blood pressure taken every day for 5 days. In a simple&amp;nbsp;bootstrap, you could do the following:&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;1. Center the data by subtracting the overall mean from each measurement.&amp;nbsp; (In an ANOVA, you would subtract the group means.)&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;2. The residuals are what you should bootstrap.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;3. Sample N subjects with replacement. Each subject contains 5 data points. Add those residual values to the overall mean or relevant group mean.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;4.&amp;nbsp;Compute the statistic of interest.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;5. Go to (3) and repeat a large number of times.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2018 12:17:52 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>Rick_SAS</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2018-09-13T12:17:52Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Bootstrap for repeated measures data</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/SAS-Procedures/Bootstrap-for-repeated-measures-data/m-p/495225#M72340</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I am interested in running bootstrap for the mean estimate of repeated measures data. I came across the following SAS document by &lt;A href="http://www2.sas.com/proceedings/forum2007/183-2007.pdf" target="_blank"&gt;David Cassell&lt;/A&gt; which presents effective ways of running bootstrap for IID data. In the article it is mentioned that there are non-naïve version of bootstrap for repeated measure data however after a survey of the web I could not find any other SAS article on the topic.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Can anyone provide me with some insight on how to proceed?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Thank you.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2018 11:13:52 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://communities.sas.com/t5/SAS-Procedures/Bootstrap-for-repeated-measures-data/m-p/495225#M72340</guid>
      <dc:creator>MarieBernadette</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2018-09-13T11:13:52Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Bootstrap for repeated measures data</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/SAS-Procedures/Bootstrap-for-repeated-measures-data/m-p/495246#M72341</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;What is the statistic of interest? Is this a one-way ANOVA design with repeated measures or something else?&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;A href="https://blogs.sas.com/content/iml/2017/07/10/bootstrap-sasiml.html" target="_self"&gt;The resampling can be efficient in the SAS/IML matrix language.&lt;/A&gt; Do you plan on using SAS/IML, or are you intending to use the DATA step?&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;In general, your bootstrap&amp;nbsp;resampling should mimic the sampling design&amp;nbsp;that collected the original data. Along with the statistic of interest, a description of your data would be helpful.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Here's an example:&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Each of N subjects has his blood pressure taken every day for 5 days. In a simple&amp;nbsp;bootstrap, you could do the following:&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;1. Center the data by subtracting the overall mean from each measurement.&amp;nbsp; (In an ANOVA, you would subtract the group means.)&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;2. The residuals are what you should bootstrap.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;3. Sample N subjects with replacement. Each subject contains 5 data points. Add those residual values to the overall mean or relevant group mean.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;4.&amp;nbsp;Compute the statistic of interest.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;5. Go to (3) and repeat a large number of times.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2018 12:17:52 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://communities.sas.com/t5/SAS-Procedures/Bootstrap-for-repeated-measures-data/m-p/495246#M72341</guid>
      <dc:creator>Rick_SAS</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2018-09-13T12:17:52Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Bootstrap for repeated measures data</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/SAS-Procedures/Bootstrap-for-repeated-measures-data/m-p/495533#M72355</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Thank you for the response. The design setting for the experiment I am working with is as follows:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;A group of subjects were asked to complete a task in two different sites (A and B). Sites A and B differs mainly in terms of terrain.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Vitals&amp;nbsp; (blood pressure and breathing rate) of each subjects were taken during the completion of the task. At a given site, each subject was asked to traverse the site and repeated the same task 4 times. Hence each subject has four measurements of blood pressure and four measurement of breathing rate in a day.&amp;nbsp;The experiment was repeated for 3 days in each site.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I am interested in comparing the distribution of the vital means for site A and B that is I wish to conduct a one-way repeated measure ANOVA with site as the between subject factor and time as the within subject factor for each vital.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I do not want to make any&amp;nbsp;distribution assumption about the vital means and was therefore looking to use the bootstrap method to reveal the distribution of the two means ( for site A and site B).&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Thank you&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2018 21:34:08 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://communities.sas.com/t5/SAS-Procedures/Bootstrap-for-repeated-measures-data/m-p/495533#M72355</guid>
      <dc:creator>MarieBernadette</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2018-09-13T21:34:08Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Bootstrap for repeated measures data</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/SAS-Procedures/Bootstrap-for-repeated-measures-data/m-p/495544#M72358</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;So the same subjects repeated at each site?&amp;nbsp; Then if there were N subjects you should:&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;1. Select a subject at random with replacement.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;2. Get their scores (all reps at both sites).&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;3. Repeat from 1 until a bootstrap sample of N subjects obtains.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;4. Compute the test statistic for the repeated measure ANOVA.on the bootstrap sample&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;5. Repeat from 1 until B samples obtained and B test statistics calculated.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;6.&amp;nbsp;Use the bootstrap&amp;nbsp;distribution of the test statistics to determine confidence intervals,&amp;nbsp;standard errors, p values, etc&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 13 Sep 2018 22:46:30 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://communities.sas.com/t5/SAS-Procedures/Bootstrap-for-repeated-measures-data/m-p/495544#M72358</guid>
      <dc:creator>Rick_SAS</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2018-09-13T22:46:30Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Bootstrap for repeated measures data</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/SAS-Procedures/Bootstrap-for-repeated-measures-data/m-p/495558#M72364</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Thank you very much this is very helpful.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 14 Sep 2018 01:56:41 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://communities.sas.com/t5/SAS-Procedures/Bootstrap-for-repeated-measures-data/m-p/495558#M72364</guid>
      <dc:creator>MarieBernadette</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2018-09-14T01:56:41Z</dc:date>
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