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    <title>topic Re: P value significant but means are not significant in SAS Procedures</title>
    <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/SAS-Procedures/P-value-significant-but-means-are-not-significant/m-p/405304#M66974</link>
    <description>&lt;P&gt;Do not use MS Office files to share information, they are a security risk, and most people (including me) will not open them. Use PDF or TXT or GIF&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;The overall p value, associated with the F-test, does not have to agree with Tukey-Kramer. There is a lot of literature on the differences between multiple comparison of means procedures, perhaps you want to read up on this subject.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Wed, 18 Oct 2017 18:10:36 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>PaigeMiller</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2017-10-18T18:10:36Z</dc:date>
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      <title>P value significant but means are not significant</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/SAS-Procedures/P-value-significant-but-means-are-not-significant/m-p/405265#M66968</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi All,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Please&amp;nbsp;I am working on a 2 year data using the Proc mixed procedure. After the analysis (with no error in my SAS log), the P value associated with F value showed a significant difference but my mean values (after Tukey Kramer's adjustement) are not significant.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;please how do I explain this.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Please find tattached the result (in excel)&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 18 Oct 2017 16:10:37 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Olanike</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2017-10-18T16:10:37Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: P value significant but means are not significant</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/SAS-Procedures/P-value-significant-but-means-are-not-significant/m-p/405304#M66974</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Do not use MS Office files to share information, they are a security risk, and most people (including me) will not open them. Use PDF or TXT or GIF&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;The overall p value, associated with the F-test, does not have to agree with Tukey-Kramer. There is a lot of literature on the differences between multiple comparison of means procedures, perhaps you want to read up on this subject.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 18 Oct 2017 18:10:36 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://communities.sas.com/t5/SAS-Procedures/P-value-significant-but-means-are-not-significant/m-p/405304#M66974</guid>
      <dc:creator>PaigeMiller</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2017-10-18T18:10:36Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: P value significant but means are not significant</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/SAS-Procedures/P-value-significant-but-means-are-not-significant/m-p/405334#M66975</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;The way to put this is something like: "&lt;EM&gt;Overall F-test shows significant variation between means, but multiple testing cannot identify significantly different pairs.&lt;/EM&gt;"&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 18 Oct 2017 20:13:45 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>PGStats</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2017-10-18T20:13:45Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: P value significant but means are not significant</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/SAS-Procedures/P-value-significant-but-means-are-not-significant/m-p/405339#M66976</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Noted paige miller&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 18 Oct 2017 20:33:53 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Olanike</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2017-10-18T20:33:53Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: P value significant but means are not significant</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/SAS-Procedures/P-value-significant-but-means-are-not-significant/m-p/405341#M66977</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Much appreciated PG. I will report it as you have advised.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 18 Oct 2017 20:37:43 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Olanike</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2017-10-18T20:37:43Z</dc:date>
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