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    <title>topic proc mixed covariance structure: fixing some parameters to 0 in SAS Procedures</title>
    <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/SAS-Procedures/proc-mixed-covariance-structure-fixing-some-parameters-to-0/m-p/227655#M54198</link>
    <description>&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Hello,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;When estimating a multilevel model using proc mixed, is there a way to fix some of the covariances in the G matrix to 0 while freely estimating the other components? Here is the matrix I want to estimate:&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;var&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;cov &amp;nbsp; var&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;cov &amp;nbsp; cov &amp;nbsp; var&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp; 0 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;0 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;0 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;var&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp; 0 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;0 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;0 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 0 &amp;nbsp; var&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp; 0 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;0 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;0 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 0 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;0 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;var&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2015 13:51:37 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>wchang</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2015-09-29T13:51:37Z</dc:date>
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      <title>proc mixed covariance structure: fixing some parameters to 0</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/SAS-Procedures/proc-mixed-covariance-structure-fixing-some-parameters-to-0/m-p/227655#M54198</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Hello,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;When estimating a multilevel model using proc mixed, is there a way to fix some of the covariances in the G matrix to 0 while freely estimating the other components? Here is the matrix I want to estimate:&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;var&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;cov &amp;nbsp; var&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;cov &amp;nbsp; cov &amp;nbsp; var&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp; 0 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;0 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;0 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;var&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp; 0 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;0 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;0 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 0 &amp;nbsp; var&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp; 0 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;0 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;0 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp; 0 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;0 &amp;nbsp; &amp;nbsp;var&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 29 Sep 2015 13:51:37 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://communities.sas.com/t5/SAS-Procedures/proc-mixed-covariance-structure-fixing-some-parameters-to-0/m-p/227655#M54198</guid>
      <dc:creator>wchang</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-09-29T13:51:37Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: proc mixed covariance structure: fixing some parameters to 0</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/SAS-Procedures/proc-mixed-covariance-structure-fixing-some-parameters-to-0/m-p/227896#M54232</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Assuming that you have an unstructured matrix, and you can make reasonable assumptions regarding the variances and covariances to be estimated, then the PARMS statement should be what you need:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;PARMS (var1) (cov12) (var2) (cov13) (cov23) (var3) (0) (0) (0) (var4) (0) (0) (0) (0) (var5) (0) (0) (0) (0) (0) (var6)/hold=7,8,9,11,12,13,14,16,17,18,19,20;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Insert appropriate values for var1-var6 and the covariances. &amp;nbsp;OR set the variances to 1 and covariances to 0, and let the optimizer work.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Steve Denham&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 30 Sep 2015 18:54:37 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://communities.sas.com/t5/SAS-Procedures/proc-mixed-covariance-structure-fixing-some-parameters-to-0/m-p/227896#M54232</guid>
      <dc:creator>SteveDenham</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-09-30T18:54:37Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: proc mixed covariance structure: fixing some parameters to 0</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/SAS-Procedures/proc-mixed-covariance-structure-fixing-some-parameters-to-0/m-p/229364#M54384</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Thank you so much for helping me understand the PARMS statement. What would be the criteria for determining appropriate starting values for the variances and covariances if I don't use 1s and 0s?&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 09 Oct 2015 20:17:55 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://communities.sas.com/t5/SAS-Procedures/proc-mixed-covariance-structure-fixing-some-parameters-to-0/m-p/229364#M54384</guid>
      <dc:creator>wchang</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-10-09T20:17:55Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: proc mixed covariance structure: fixing some parameters to 0</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/SAS-Procedures/proc-mixed-covariance-structure-fixing-some-parameters-to-0/m-p/229534#M54402</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Variances&amp;nbsp;and covariances&amp;nbsp;are easy to come by using PROC CORR with the COV option. These would be reasonable starting values.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Steve Denham&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 12 Oct 2015 12:37:13 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://communities.sas.com/t5/SAS-Procedures/proc-mixed-covariance-structure-fixing-some-parameters-to-0/m-p/229534#M54402</guid>
      <dc:creator>SteveDenham</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-10-12T12:37:13Z</dc:date>
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