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    <title>topic Re: using a different residual variance structure in proc mixed in SAS Procedures</title>
    <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/SAS-Procedures/using-a-different-residual-variance-structure-in-proc-mixed/m-p/214649#M52879</link>
    <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;This is going to be a lot easier if you have all of the data that generated this additional variation measure.&amp;nbsp; It would then be a straightforward MIXED analysis, I think.&amp;nbsp; But I am guessing not...&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;So, some more detail on how S2 is derived and then on how it is supplied to the dataset are going to be very helpful.&amp;nbsp; I am hoping that S2 is some sort of variance calculated on a per run basis, and if so, we can address it through the use of a WEIGHT statement.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Steve Denham&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2015 14:23:58 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>SteveDenham</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2015-07-31T14:23:58Z</dc:date>
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      <title>using a different residual variance structure in proc mixed</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/SAS-Procedures/using-a-different-residual-variance-structure-in-proc-mixed/m-p/214648#M52878</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;Dear all,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I'm currently fitting a mixed effects model in SAS using proc mixed. The only issue I have is that I have a special data set in a sense that the observed data come with a variation measure.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;What I want to do, is to incorporate this additional variation in the estimation of the residual variance. Thus, instead of having a residual variance of the form sigma^2*I, I have (sigma^2 + S2)*I where S2 is the variation measure.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Any ideas of how I can account for this structure in SAS?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;A sample of the model in SAS is of this form:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;proc mixed data=data;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;class run;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;model y=x;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;random intercept/sub=run;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;repeated / ;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; /*I believe the variation S2 should come in here*/&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;run;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 30 Jul 2015 23:31:52 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>mamzolo</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-07-30T23:31:52Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: using a different residual variance structure in proc mixed</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/SAS-Procedures/using-a-different-residual-variance-structure-in-proc-mixed/m-p/214649#M52879</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;This is going to be a lot easier if you have all of the data that generated this additional variation measure.&amp;nbsp; It would then be a straightforward MIXED analysis, I think.&amp;nbsp; But I am guessing not...&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;So, some more detail on how S2 is derived and then on how it is supplied to the dataset are going to be very helpful.&amp;nbsp; I am hoping that S2 is some sort of variance calculated on a per run basis, and if so, we can address it through the use of a WEIGHT statement.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Steve Denham&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2015 14:23:58 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://communities.sas.com/t5/SAS-Procedures/using-a-different-residual-variance-structure-in-proc-mixed/m-p/214649#M52879</guid>
      <dc:creator>SteveDenham</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-07-31T14:23:58Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: using a different residual variance structure in proc mixed</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/SAS-Procedures/using-a-different-residual-variance-structure-in-proc-mixed/m-p/214650#M52880</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;Thanks Steve.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Indeed S2 is a variance calculated for each run.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I have just been able to solve this problem (partly) by using the PARMS statement. I had to create a data set with S2 values and use this data in PARMSDATA option.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I haven't checked whether it works but I'm keeping my fingers crossed.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Thembile Mzolo&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 31 Jul 2015 15:02:04 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>mamzolo</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-07-31T15:02:04Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: using a different residual variance structure in proc mixed</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/SAS-Procedures/using-a-different-residual-variance-structure-in-proc-mixed/m-p/214651#M52881</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;I think that is a good plan--I assume these are read in and then the HOLD option is used to keep them fixed at the calculated values?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Steve Denham&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 03 Aug 2015 11:50:02 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>SteveDenham</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-08-03T11:50:02Z</dc:date>
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