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    <title>topic PROC GLIMMIX not converging! WARNING: Obtaining minimum variance quadratic unbiased estimates as starting values for the covariance parameters failed. in SAS Procedures</title>
    <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/SAS-Procedures/PROC-GLIMMIX-not-converging-WARNING-Obtaining-minimum-variance/m-p/173350#M44649</link>
    <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;Help!&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;PROC GLIMMIX IS NOT CONVERGING! I get an error message &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;WARNING: Obtaining minimum variance quadratic unbiased estimates as starting values for the&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; covariance parameters failed. I first tried d=b link=clogit. My prof suggested deleting the d=b. My outcome is ordinal (1-4)&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;*****************ANALYSES*******************************;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;PROC glimmix DATA=one order=data;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp; CLASS v6;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp; MODEL encourage= /SOLUTION link=clogit;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp; RANDOM intercept/SUBJECT=v6;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp; NLOPTIONS TECHNIQUE=NRRIDG;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp; weight v8;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp; TITLE 'STEP 1: RANDOM EFFECTS ANOVA'; &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;run;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2014 16:20:58 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>Val40106</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2014-11-16T16:20:58Z</dc:date>
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      <title>PROC GLIMMIX not converging! WARNING: Obtaining minimum variance quadratic unbiased estimates as starting values for the covariance parameters failed.</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/SAS-Procedures/PROC-GLIMMIX-not-converging-WARNING-Obtaining-minimum-variance/m-p/173350#M44649</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;Help!&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;PROC GLIMMIX IS NOT CONVERGING! I get an error message &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;WARNING: Obtaining minimum variance quadratic unbiased estimates as starting values for the&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; covariance parameters failed. I first tried d=b link=clogit. My prof suggested deleting the d=b. My outcome is ordinal (1-4)&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;*****************ANALYSES*******************************;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;PROC glimmix DATA=one order=data;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp; CLASS v6;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp; MODEL encourage= /SOLUTION link=clogit;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp; RANDOM intercept/SUBJECT=v6;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp; NLOPTIONS TECHNIQUE=NRRIDG;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp; weight v8;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp; TITLE 'STEP 1: RANDOM EFFECTS ANOVA'; &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;run;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 16 Nov 2014 16:20:58 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Val40106</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2014-11-16T16:20:58Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: PROC GLIMMIX not converging! WARNING: Obtaining minimum variance quadratic unbiased estimates as starting values for the covariance parameters failed.</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/SAS-Procedures/PROC-GLIMMIX-not-converging-WARNING-Obtaining-minimum-variance/m-p/173351#M44650</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;Well, the obvious first step would be to apply a multinomial distribution (dist=mult, or d=mult, with link=clogit).&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;This worked for me in translating the example in the PROC GENMOD documentation (Example 43.4 Ordinal Model for Multinomial Data) to a GLIMMIX framework.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Steve Denham&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 17 Nov 2014 14:38:11 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>SteveDenham</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2014-11-17T14:38:11Z</dc:date>
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