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    <title>topic Re: PROC LOGISTIC case-control STRATA can't do ctables/ROC? in SAS Procedures</title>
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    <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;DL&gt;&lt;DT&gt;Thanks for the replies. I did try the macro, as you suggested, with a conditional logistic regression with strata. (Overall prediction is the goal.) Unfortunately, SAS also doesn't support OUTROC = when STRATA is used, so the macro cannot be run.&lt;/DT&gt;&lt;DT&gt; If it is simply a matter of SAS not currently supporting the necessary calculations in the current version, I suppose either other software might, or some rather tedious hand calculation could be employed (to at least produce a ctable from inverse fit of the logistic regression parameters). Of course, it may be that SAS doesn't implement ROC for STRATA for some statistical/mathematical reason which makes the calculation invalid – not that any come to mind, but as I wrote, I don't have a lot of experience with matched case-control studies.&lt;/DT&gt;&lt;/DL&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Mon, 16 Dec 2013 13:12:34 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>ElliotSprecher</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2013-12-16T13:12:34Z</dc:date>
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      <title>PROC LOGISTIC case-control STRATA can't do ctables/ROC?</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/SAS-Procedures/PROC-LOGISTIC-case-control-STRATA-can-t-do-ctables-ROC/m-p/172364#M44431</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;DL&gt;&lt;DT&gt;I don't have a lot of experience with matched case-control studies, so I was surprised to see that PROC LOGISTIC doesn't support ROC analysis and ctable options when using the STRATA command. Is there a statistical or mathematical issue with ROC and specificity and sensitivity determinations, or is it simply that they have not been implemented yet (as with profile-likelihood CIs, which aren't available with STRATA, but which tablcan be obtained using the alternative transformed-data method)?&lt;/DT&gt;&lt;DT&gt; TIA,&lt;/DT&gt;&lt;DT&gt; Elliot&lt;/DT&gt;&lt;DT&gt; &lt;BR /&gt; &lt;/DT&gt;&lt;/DL&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 13 Dec 2013 09:09:38 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>ElliotSprecher</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2013-12-13T09:09:38Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: PROC LOGISTIC case-control STRATA can't do ctables/ROC?</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/SAS-Procedures/PROC-LOGISTIC-case-control-STRATA-can-t-do-ctables-ROC/m-p/172365#M44432</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;Hi,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Do you want the ROC for each strata or for overall prediction ?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 13 Dec 2013 11:15:17 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>MohammadFayaz</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2013-12-13T11:15:17Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: PROC LOGISTIC case-control STRATA can't do ctables/ROC?</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/SAS-Procedures/PROC-LOGISTIC-case-control-STRATA-can-t-do-ctables-ROC/m-p/172366#M44433</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;For both of them, you can use&amp;nbsp; %rocplot by specifying the right input arguments based on your analysis.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;For further information check the results tab in this page :&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;A href="http://support.sas.com/kb/25/018.html" title="http://support.sas.com/kb/25/018.html"&gt;25018 - Plot ROC curve with labelled points for a binary-response model&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 13 Dec 2013 11:20:02 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>MohammadFayaz</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2013-12-13T11:20:02Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: PROC LOGISTIC case-control STRATA can't do ctables/ROC?</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/SAS-Procedures/PROC-LOGISTIC-case-control-STRATA-can-t-do-ctables-ROC/m-p/172367#M44434</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;DL&gt;&lt;DT&gt;Thanks for the replies. I did try the macro, as you suggested, with a conditional logistic regression with strata. (Overall prediction is the goal.) Unfortunately, SAS also doesn't support OUTROC = when STRATA is used, so the macro cannot be run.&lt;/DT&gt;&lt;DT&gt; If it is simply a matter of SAS not currently supporting the necessary calculations in the current version, I suppose either other software might, or some rather tedious hand calculation could be employed (to at least produce a ctable from inverse fit of the logistic regression parameters). Of course, it may be that SAS doesn't implement ROC for STRATA for some statistical/mathematical reason which makes the calculation invalid – not that any come to mind, but as I wrote, I don't have a lot of experience with matched case-control studies.&lt;/DT&gt;&lt;/DL&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 16 Dec 2013 13:12:34 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://communities.sas.com/t5/SAS-Procedures/PROC-LOGISTIC-case-control-STRATA-can-t-do-ctables-ROC/m-p/172367#M44434</guid>
      <dc:creator>ElliotSprecher</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2013-12-16T13:12:34Z</dc:date>
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