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    <title>topic What is the meaning of different RESIDUAL positions in the PROC GLIMMIX' RANDOM statement  ? in SAS Procedures</title>
    <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/SAS-Procedures/What-is-the-meaning-of-different-RESIDUAL-positions-in-the-PROC/m-p/169023#M43724</link>
    <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;Folks:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;here are the examples:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P style="padding-left: 30px;"&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-family: 'courier new', courier;"&gt;RANDOM &lt;EM&gt;&amp;lt;my_variable1&amp;gt;&lt;/EM&gt; / &lt;SPAN style="color: #0000ff;"&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;RESIDUAL&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt; SUBJECT = &lt;EM&gt;&amp;lt;my_variable2&amp;gt;&lt;/EM&gt;;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;and&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P style="padding-left: 30px;"&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-family: 'courier new', courier;"&gt;RANDOM &lt;SPAN style="color: #0000ff;"&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;_RESIDUAL_&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt; / SUBJECT = &lt;EM&gt;&amp;lt;my_variable2&amp;gt;&lt;/EM&gt;;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Thank you.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2014 13:19:53 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>stan</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2014-05-22T13:19:53Z</dc:date>
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      <title>What is the meaning of different RESIDUAL positions in the PROC GLIMMIX' RANDOM statement  ?</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/SAS-Procedures/What-is-the-meaning-of-different-RESIDUAL-positions-in-the-PROC/m-p/169023#M43724</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;Folks:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;here are the examples:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P style="padding-left: 30px;"&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-family: 'courier new', courier;"&gt;RANDOM &lt;EM&gt;&amp;lt;my_variable1&amp;gt;&lt;/EM&gt; / &lt;SPAN style="color: #0000ff;"&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;RESIDUAL&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt; SUBJECT = &lt;EM&gt;&amp;lt;my_variable2&amp;gt;&lt;/EM&gt;;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;and&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P style="padding-left: 30px;"&gt;&lt;SPAN style="font-family: 'courier new', courier;"&gt;RANDOM &lt;SPAN style="color: #0000ff;"&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;_RESIDUAL_&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt; / SUBJECT = &lt;EM&gt;&amp;lt;my_variable2&amp;gt;&lt;/EM&gt;;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Thank you.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 22 May 2014 13:19:53 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>stan</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2014-05-22T13:19:53Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: What is the meaning of different RESIDUAL positions in the PROC GLIMMIX' RANDOM statement  ?</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/SAS-Procedures/What-is-the-meaning-of-different-RESIDUAL-positions-in-the-PROC/m-p/169024#M43725</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;The former syntax specifies an R side covariance structure for &lt;EM&gt;&amp;lt;my_variable1&amp;gt;, &lt;/EM&gt;while the latter syntax models an overdispersion.&amp;nbsp; I believe that since the default type is TYPE=VC, the two statements as they currently stand should yield the same results.&amp;nbsp; If not, please post, as this is a potentially interesting event.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Steve Denham&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 23 May 2014 14:10:13 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>SteveDenham</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2014-05-23T14:10:13Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: What is the meaning of different RESIDUAL positions in the PROC GLIMMIX' RANDOM statement  ?</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/SAS-Procedures/What-is-the-meaning-of-different-RESIDUAL-positions-in-the-PROC/m-p/169025#M43726</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;Steve, at first glance the outputs are the same. I also met another &lt;A _jive_internal="true" href="https://communities.sas.com/message/159829"&gt;explanation&lt;/A&gt; by @lvm:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;PRE __jive_macro_name="quote" class="jive_text_macro jive_macro_quote"&gt;
&lt;P&gt;If you do not have missing values for trial (i.e., same trials for each subject), you can use:&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;RANDOM _RESIDUAL_ / SUBJECT=SUB TYPE=CS;&lt;SPAN style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; background-color: #ffffff;"&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;

&lt;/PRE&gt;&lt;P&gt;Probably this is the same you mention.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 26 May 2014 17:35:34 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>stan</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2014-05-26T17:35:34Z</dc:date>
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