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    <title>topic Re: T-TEST in SAS Procedures</title>
    <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/SAS-Procedures/T-TEST/m-p/129224#M35222</link>
    <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;Hi,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Thanks for the reply.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;But how would we know if the F is low&amp;nbsp; or high??? What do we need to compare the F to check to see if F is high or low??&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Could you explain???&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;thanks&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Thu, 05 Sep 2013 13:29:57 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>robertrao</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2013-09-05T13:29:57Z</dc:date>
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      <title>T-TEST</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/SAS-Procedures/T-TEST/m-p/129222#M35220</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;Hi,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;In interpreting T-test results which of the following should we pick for the p-value?????&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Method&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; variances&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; DF&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; tvalue&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; pr&amp;gt;|t|&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Pooled&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; equal&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; 42&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; 3.68&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; 0.0007&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Satterthwaite&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; unequal&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; 9.094&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; 2.53&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; 0.0320&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Equality of Variences&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Method&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; NumDF&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; DenDF&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; Fvalue&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; Pr&amp;gt;f&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Folded F&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; 8&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; 34&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; 3.85&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; 0.0051 &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Thanks&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 04 Sep 2013 20:27:49 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>robertrao</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2013-09-04T20:27:49Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: T-TEST</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/SAS-Procedures/T-TEST/m-p/129223#M35221</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;The second part of the display on equality of variances tests if the two goups of data have equal variance. If you have large F then the likelihood of equal variances is very low (Pr&amp;gt;f) and reject equality. Which would mean to use the row in the first section with unequal variance and the Satterwaite adjustments to the basic T-test.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;If the F is low then the likelihood is the variance are equal, or close enough, and use the equal variance.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;BR /&gt; &lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 04 Sep 2013 22:17:52 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>ballardw</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2013-09-04T22:17:52Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: T-TEST</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/SAS-Procedures/T-TEST/m-p/129224#M35222</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;Hi,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Thanks for the reply.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;But how would we know if the F is low&amp;nbsp; or high??? What do we need to compare the F to check to see if F is high or low??&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Could you explain???&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;thanks&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 05 Sep 2013 13:29:57 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>robertrao</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2013-09-05T13:29:57Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: T-TEST</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/SAS-Procedures/T-TEST/m-p/129225#M35223</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;There is a probability associated with that F test.&amp;nbsp; In the output, Pr&amp;gt;F is 0.0051.&amp;nbsp; That is pretty strong evidence that the differences in the variances are not due solely to chance, and that you would be advised to use the Satterthwaite approximation value.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Note well, though, that any test of variance equality or homogeneity is much more sensitive to the assumption of normality than is the actual t-test itself.&amp;nbsp; In this case, since the Satterthwaite degrees of freedom is so much different than the pooled method, I would be inclined to use the Satterthwaite t-test no matter what the result of the variance homogeneity was.&amp;nbsp; I assume that the sample sizes differed greatly by group, yes?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Steve Denham&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 05 Sep 2013 13:46:58 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>SteveDenham</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2013-09-05T13:46:58Z</dc:date>
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