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    <title>topic Re: Interpreting Odds Ratios- and Omitted Variables in SAS Procedures</title>
    <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/SAS-Procedures/Interpreting-Odds-Ratios-and-Omitted-Variables/m-p/77090#M22349</link>
    <description>I read the link- and should look into it more in depth, but&lt;BR /&gt;
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This could be it! The overall model is giving me 88% correct predictions on validation data!    If I take the mean prediced probability for race 6 it is higher than the mean predicted probability for race 2 ( which is what I would expect, but opposite the results the odds ratio/contrasts tell me) It is just when I look at the contrasts and odds ratios at the individual races or sexes that I get  weird results. The same thing occurs when I look at the results by sex. &lt;BR /&gt;
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So in this case, in the aggregate my model seems like it predicts well, I just can't rely on the interpretation of the individual contrast statements due to 'Simpson's Paradox'? &lt;BR /&gt;
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Is there a way to correct for this?</description>
    <pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2009 20:28:49 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>deleted_user</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2009-03-18T20:28:49Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Interpreting Odds Ratios- and Omitted Variables</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/SAS-Procedures/Interpreting-Odds-Ratios-and-Omitted-Variables/m-p/77087#M22346</link>
      <description>From SAS I get the following output: ( also attached)  The dependent variable is binary, Y = 1 for pass, Y = 0 for fail.&lt;BR /&gt;
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Odds Ratio Estimates&lt;BR /&gt;
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                                                 Point          95% Wald&lt;BR /&gt;
                   Effect                     Estimate      Confidence Limits&lt;BR /&gt;
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                SEX              M vs F       1.162       1.004       1.345&lt;BR /&gt;
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              RACE             2 vs 6       1.521       1.143       2.024&lt;BR /&gt;
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My interpretation is that with an odds ratio  &amp;gt; 1 ( the point estimate)  that implies that males are more likely to pass than females, actually between 1.004 and 1.345 times as 'likely' with 95% confidence.  ( I'm not sure what I mean by 'likely' I'm just repeating what I've observed in literature)&lt;BR /&gt;
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The same goes for race, RACE 2  is more likely to pass than RACE 6 based on the odds ratios.&lt;BR /&gt;
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I know these results are significant because 1) the Wald Chi-square in the Type 3 analysis of effects ( not given above)  is significant for RACE and SEX, implying differences exist and 2) the 95% wald confidence intervals above do not contian '1'. ( If this is correct I don't understand why )&lt;BR /&gt;
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If I'm correct about all of the above, I still have a problem. Just by observing the data, and theory, Females pass at greater percentages than males and RACE 6 passes with greater percentages than RACE 2. My results contradict theory and observation of raw data on both accounts.&lt;BR /&gt;
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I believe in linear regression, when you get the wrong sign on a coefficient it could be caused by an omitted variable. ( EX: if the sign is unexpectedly negative for Beta on X1 then you could be omitting a variable say X2 that is positively correlated to X1 but negatively correlated with Y in a model Y = B1X1 + B2X2)  You can fix the problem by discovering the omitted variable and inserting it into the model.&lt;BR /&gt;
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Could an omitted variable be responsible for my odds ratio results? I'm not sure if it works like this.  Can someone suggest what I'm doing /interpreting incorrectly?</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 17 Mar 2009 18:55:29 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://communities.sas.com/t5/SAS-Procedures/Interpreting-Odds-Ratios-and-Omitted-Variables/m-p/77087#M22346</guid>
      <dc:creator>deleted_user</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2009-03-17T18:55:29Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Interpreting Odds Ratios- and Omitted Variables</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/SAS-Procedures/Interpreting-Odds-Ratios-and-Omitted-Variables/m-p/77088#M22347</link>
      <description>Just a note: I am using proc logistic with the descending option.</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2009 13:11:43 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://communities.sas.com/t5/SAS-Procedures/Interpreting-Odds-Ratios-and-Omitted-Variables/m-p/77088#M22347</guid>
      <dc:creator>deleted_user</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2009-03-18T13:11:43Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Interpreting Odds Ratios- and Omitted Variables</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/SAS-Procedures/Interpreting-Odds-Ratios-and-Omitted-Variables/m-p/77089#M22348</link>
      <description>There is a good chance that the observation that you have made is called Simpson's Paradox.&lt;BR /&gt;
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http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Simpson's_paradox</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2009 13:17:02 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://communities.sas.com/t5/SAS-Procedures/Interpreting-Odds-Ratios-and-Omitted-Variables/m-p/77089#M22348</guid>
      <dc:creator>Doc_Duke</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2009-03-18T13:17:02Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Interpreting Odds Ratios- and Omitted Variables</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/SAS-Procedures/Interpreting-Odds-Ratios-and-Omitted-Variables/m-p/77090#M22349</link>
      <description>I read the link- and should look into it more in depth, but&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
This could be it! The overall model is giving me 88% correct predictions on validation data!    If I take the mean prediced probability for race 6 it is higher than the mean predicted probability for race 2 ( which is what I would expect, but opposite the results the odds ratio/contrasts tell me) It is just when I look at the contrasts and odds ratios at the individual races or sexes that I get  weird results. The same thing occurs when I look at the results by sex. &lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
So in this case, in the aggregate my model seems like it predicts well, I just can't rely on the interpretation of the individual contrast statements due to 'Simpson's Paradox'? &lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
Is there a way to correct for this?</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 18 Mar 2009 20:28:49 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://communities.sas.com/t5/SAS-Procedures/Interpreting-Odds-Ratios-and-Omitted-Variables/m-p/77090#M22349</guid>
      <dc:creator>deleted_user</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2009-03-18T20:28:49Z</dc:date>
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