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    <title>topic Re: having problem with missing values for numerical columns in SAS Procedures</title>
    <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/SAS-Procedures/having-problem-with-missing-values-for-numerical-columns/m-p/65908#M18802</link>
    <description>We use SAS DI studio to process the data. Naturally we have used file reader transformation to read the data from external files.&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
Could you please explain, how we can use "??" to handle null values in file reader?&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
Thanks and Regards,&lt;BR /&gt;
AnjiREDDY.</description>
    <pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 13:38:57 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>deleted_user</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2010-03-10T13:38:57Z</dc:date>
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      <title>having problem with missing values for numerical columns</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/SAS-Procedures/having-problem-with-missing-values-for-numerical-columns/m-p/65902#M18796</link>
      <description>Dear All,&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
Our maiframe team have been used unload utiilities to pull the data from DB2 tables exist in Z/OS environment.&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
With in SAS we have used the FTP access method to access the data from external files reside on Z/OS.&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
We have problem with reading data from numerical columns which allow null values.&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
We had a chance to look at the hosted file reference structure to define the metadata in SAS. The structure looks as below...&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
 000001   LOAD DATA LOG NO INDDN SYSREC00 INTO TABLE                            &lt;BR /&gt;
 000002       SCHEMA.TABLE_NAME                                                   &lt;BR /&gt;
 000003    (                                                                    &lt;BR /&gt;
 000004    COLUMN1                          POSITION(       1:       6)   &lt;BR /&gt;
 000005    DECIMAL                              ,                               &lt;BR /&gt;
 000006    COLUMN2                           POSITION(      7         )   &lt;BR /&gt;
 000007    VARCHAR                                                              &lt;BR /&gt;
 000008         NULLIF(     27)='?',                                           &lt;BR /&gt;
 &lt;B&gt;000009    COLUMN3                                POSITION(     28:     33)   &lt;BR /&gt;
 000010    DECIMAL                                                              &lt;BR /&gt;
 000011         NULLIF(     34)='?',&lt;/B&gt;                                           &lt;BR /&gt;
 000012    COLUMN4                             POSITION(     35         )   &lt;BR /&gt;
 000013    CHAR(                      4)                                        &lt;BR /&gt;
 000014         NULLIF(     39)='?',                                           &lt;BR /&gt;
 000015    &lt;B&gt;COLUMN5                        POSITION(     40         )   &lt;BR /&gt;
 000016    VARCHAR                                                              &lt;BR /&gt;
 000017         NULLIF(     53)='?'&lt;/B&gt;                                           &lt;BR /&gt;
 000018    )&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
We define the metadata in SAS to access the above data as below...&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
Name 		Length 	Type 		Informat  	Begin POsition 	End Position&lt;BR /&gt;
Column1		8	NUmeric		s370fpd6.	1		6&lt;BR /&gt;
Column2		20	Character	$ebcdic20.	7		26&lt;BR /&gt;
Null_If_1	1	Character	$1.		27		27&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;B&gt;Column3		8	NUmeric		s370fpd6.	28		33&lt;/B&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;
Null_If_2	1	Character	$1.		34		34&lt;BR /&gt;
Column4		5	Character	$ebcdic5.	35		39&lt;BR /&gt;
Null_If_3	1	Character	$1.		40		40&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;B&gt;Column5		14	Character	$ebcdic14.	43		52&lt;/B&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;
Null_If_4	1	Character	$1.		53		53&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;I&gt;We are able to pull the data from external file with the metadata defined as above except for the &lt;B&gt;column3&lt;/B&gt;&lt;/I&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
I amn't sure if we define the metadata for the &lt;B&gt;column3&lt;/B&gt; preoperly...&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;I&gt;And strangely we have to read the data for the &lt;B&gt;column5&lt;/B&gt; from the position 43 not from 41. If we read data from the position 41 a special character prefixed with these column values so we skipped the position 41 and reading data from the position 42 to avoid that special character&lt;/I&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
Could you please explain why should we read data from position 42 to skip that character, if you have expertise on this? &lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
Thanks in advance, I can imagine you would have spent quite a long time to analyse the query I am posting here...&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
I am excited to see your reply.&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
Thanks once agian for your time.&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
Best Regards,&lt;BR /&gt;
AnjiREDDY</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 09:46:51 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://communities.sas.com/t5/SAS-Procedures/having-problem-with-missing-values-for-numerical-columns/m-p/65902#M18796</guid>
      <dc:creator>deleted_user</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2010-03-09T09:46:51Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: having problem with missing values for numerical columns</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/SAS-Procedures/having-problem-with-missing-values-for-numerical-columns/m-p/65903#M18797</link>
      <description>I don't believe that your DB2-unloaded DECIMAL specification matches the use of SAS INFORMAT s370fpd6.&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
Also, I am uncertain about your other concern, unless you can share a few data-row samples (pasted in a reply) and also some SAS processing log results are preferred for additional diagnosis and feedback.&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
Scott Barry&lt;BR /&gt;
SBBWorks, Inc.</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 12:31:22 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://communities.sas.com/t5/SAS-Procedures/having-problem-with-missing-values-for-numerical-columns/m-p/65903#M18797</guid>
      <dc:creator>sbb</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2010-03-09T12:31:22Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: having problem with missing values for numerical columns</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/SAS-Procedures/having-problem-with-missing-values-for-numerical-columns/m-p/65904#M18798</link>
      <description>Hi,&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
Thanx a ton for responding to my issue...&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;B&gt;I have manipulated above file structure and the data provided here for security reasons&lt;/B&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;
The unloaded data is stored in packed decimal format. You can refer the sample data provided below...&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;B&gt;000001&lt;/B&gt;      %        00000000000test                    {        *     %&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;B&gt;000002&lt;/B&gt;      Ø        080790000100996                    {        {      &lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;B&gt;000003&lt;/B&gt;      ð        080790000100988                    Ø        {     {&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;B&gt;000004&lt;/B&gt;      {        XXJ000000000008                    ð        {     %&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
when I say &lt;B&gt;hex on&lt;/B&gt; in Z/OS environment the above data looks as below&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;B&gt;000001&lt;/B&gt;      %        00000000000test                    {        *     %       &lt;BR /&gt;
       00001600021200FFFFFFFFFFFA8AA0000000000000000000290000010050000060000000&lt;BR /&gt;
       00005C00001C0F00000000000352300000000000000001008C00000C31C00016C0000000&lt;BR /&gt;
------------------------------------------------------------------------------ &lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;B&gt;000002&lt;/B&gt;      Ø        080790000100996                    {        {             &lt;BR /&gt;
       00001700020300FFFFFFFFFFFFFFF0000000000000000000390000010090000110000000&lt;BR /&gt;
       00005C00001C0F08079000010099600000000000000001001C00000C87C00101C0000000&lt;BR /&gt;
------------------------------------------------------------------------------ &lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;B&gt;000003&lt;/B&gt;      ð        080790000100988                    Ø        {     {       &lt;BR /&gt;
       00001800020300FFFFFFFFFFFFFFF0000000000000000000370000010090000090000000&lt;BR /&gt;
       00005C00001C0F08079000010098800000000000000001002C00000C87C00107C0000000&lt;BR /&gt;
------------------------------------------------------------------------------ &lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;B&gt;000004&lt;/B&gt;      {        XXJ000000000008                    ð        {     %       &lt;BR /&gt;
       00001900020100EEDFFFFFFFFFFFF0000000000000000110380000010090000160000000&lt;BR /&gt;
       00005C00001C0F77100000000000800000000000000000003C00000C87C00108C0000000&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
We don't access DB2 tables directly. Our team uses load utilities to pull data from DB2 tables and then SAS job reads the unloaded data(in packed decimal format) to populate EDW tables.&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
We have problem with only numerical columns which allow null values.&lt;BR /&gt;
We are able to access data from non numerical columns which allow null values&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
When we use the informat as pd5. it allows to access the data but it skips the last digit where as when we use pd6., it provides the incorrect values..&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
However, here I am writing the few of SAS log lines...&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
14            attrib DBTR_IBAN_NO length = $36 informat = $ebcdic36.;&lt;BR /&gt;
15            attrib NULL_IF_IBAN length = $1 informat = $ebcdic1.;&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;B&gt;16            attrib DELV_ID length = 8 informat = s370fpd6.;&lt;BR /&gt;
                                                   _________&lt;BR /&gt;
                                                   150&lt;BR /&gt;
WARNING 150-185: List input (implied by INFORMAT) is incompatible with the specified binary informat. Formatted input will be used.&lt;/B&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;B&gt;NOTE: Invalid data for DELV_ID in line 1 103-108.&lt;/B&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;
RULE:     ----+----1----+----2----+----3----+----4----+----5----+----6----+----7----+----8----+----9----+----0                      &lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
1   CHAR  .....l... .,..ððððððððððð£.¢£...................(.........\.....l...................................&lt;BR /&gt;
    ZONE  00001600021200FFFFFFFFFFFA8AA00000000000000000002900000100500000600000000000000000000000000000000000&lt;BR /&gt;
    NUMR  00005C00001C0F00000000000352300000000000000001008C00000C31C00016C00000000000000000000000000000000000&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
     101  .o......oÃÙÅÄ...................oðñKðôKòððùðñKðôKòððùóñKñòKùùùù..Š.¢.....kÂ×mðòõkâÃÅ................&lt;BR /&gt;
    ZONE  060000006CDCC00000000000000000006FF4FF4FFFFFF4FF4FFFFFF4FF4FFFF01A9A889896CD6FFF6ECC0000000000000000&lt;BR /&gt;
    NUMR  0F000000F39540000000000000000000F01B04B200901B04B200931B12B99990367214495B27D025B2350000000000000000&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
     201  .....òððù`ðó`ñð`ñõKõöKòõKöøôððð&lt;BR /&gt;
    ZONE  00000FFFF6FF6FF6FF4FF4FF4FFFFFF&lt;BR /&gt;
    NUMR  000002009003010015B56B25B684000&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;B&gt;DELV_ID=. NULL_IF_DELV=?&lt;/B&gt;_ERROR_=1 _N_=1</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 13:18:46 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://communities.sas.com/t5/SAS-Procedures/having-problem-with-missing-values-for-numerical-columns/m-p/65904#M18798</guid>
      <dc:creator>deleted_user</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2010-03-09T13:18:46Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: having problem with missing values for numerical columns</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/SAS-Procedures/having-problem-with-missing-values-for-numerical-columns/m-p/65905#M18799</link>
      <description>We need to see your DATA step program completely with the INPUT statement(s) at a minimum, as well as your INFILE statement too.  Plz explain for us where you are processing this data with SAS and if the processing is not natively happening on z/OS, tell us exactly how you get the data to the OS platform where it is processed.&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
Read the post below for guidelines with handling code, special characters, when constructing your SAS discussion forums post.&lt;BR /&gt;
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&lt;A href="http://support.sas.com/forums/thread.jspa?messageID=27609" target="_blank"&gt;http://support.sas.com/forums/thread.jspa?messageID=27609&lt;/A&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;
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&lt;BR /&gt;
Scott Barry&lt;BR /&gt;
SBBWorks, Inc.</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 09 Mar 2010 13:49:55 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://communities.sas.com/t5/SAS-Procedures/having-problem-with-missing-values-for-numerical-columns/m-p/65905#M18799</guid>
      <dc:creator>sbb</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2010-03-09T13:49:55Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: having problem with missing values for numerical columns</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/SAS-Procedures/having-problem-with-missing-values-for-numerical-columns/m-p/65906#M18800</link>
      <description>Thanx for your promptive response.&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
We process the job in windows environment only. We have been using ftp access method to access the dataet located in Z/OS.&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
Please have a look at the data step program below...&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
[pre]&lt;BR /&gt;
1          data work.etls_EFITable;&lt;BR /&gt;
2          &lt;BR /&gt;
3             infile "'A1.Z1D.ML1D6.MUNL02.D100219'" Ftp Host='HOST' Port=21&lt;BR /&gt;
4                    firstobs = 1&lt;BR /&gt;
5                    Binary lrecl=231 blocksize=32000 debug USER='user' PASS=XXXXX;&lt;BR /&gt;
6          &lt;BR /&gt;
7             attrib BS_MANDATE_NO length = 8 informat = s370fpd6.;&lt;BR /&gt;
8             attrib CRED_CG_ID length = 8 informat = s370fpd6.;&lt;BR /&gt;
9             attrib CRED_CUST_NO length = $32 informat = $ebcdic32.;&lt;BR /&gt;
10            attrib DBTR_NO length = 8 informat = s370fpd6.;&lt;BR /&gt;
11            attrib DBTR_ACCT_CATEGORY_ID length = 8 informat = s370fpd6.;&lt;BR /&gt;
12            attrib DBTR_REG_NO length = 8 informat = s370fpd3.;&lt;BR /&gt;
13            attrib DBTR_ACCT_NO length = 8 informat = s370fpd6.;&lt;BR /&gt;
14            attrib DBTR_IBAN_NO length = $36 informat = $ebcdic36.;&lt;BR /&gt;
15            attrib NULL_IF_IBAN length = $1 informat = $ebcdic1.;&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;B&gt;16            attrib DELV_ID length = 8 informat = s370fpd6.;&lt;BR /&gt;
17            attrib NULL_IF_DELV length = $1 informat = $ebcdic1.;&lt;/B&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;
18            attrib CREATED_BY length = $4 informat = $ebcdic4.;&lt;BR /&gt;
19            attrib NUL_IF_2 length = $1 informat = $ebcdic1.;&lt;BR /&gt;
20            attrib REPORTING_IDENT length = $16 informat = $ebcdic18.;&lt;BR /&gt;
21            attrib NULL_IF_ID length = $1 informat = $ebcdic1.;&lt;BR /&gt;
22            attrib START_DT length = $10 informat = $ebcdic10.;&lt;BR /&gt;
23            attrib VAL_START_DT length = $10 informat = $ebcdic10.;&lt;BR /&gt;
24            attrib VAL_END_DT length = $10 informat = $ebcdic10.;&lt;BR /&gt;
25            attrib UPDATE_BY length = $42 informat = $ebcdic42.;&lt;BR /&gt;
26            attrib UPDATE_TS length = $26 informat = $ebcdic26.;&lt;BR /&gt;
27         &lt;BR /&gt;
28            input @ 1 BS_MANDATE_NO  s370fpd6.&lt;BR /&gt;
29                   @ 7 CRED_CG_ID  s370fpd6.&lt;BR /&gt;
30                   @ 13 CRED_CUST_NO  $ebcdic32.&lt;BR /&gt;
31                   @ 45 DBTR_NO  s370fpd6.&lt;BR /&gt;
32                   @ 51 DBTR_ACCT_CATEGORY_ID  s370fpd6.&lt;BR /&gt;
33                   @ 57 DBTR_REG_NO  s370fpd3.&lt;BR /&gt;
34                   @ 60 DBTR_ACCT_NO  s370fpd6.&lt;BR /&gt;
35                   @ 66 DBTR_IBAN_NO  $ebcdic36.&lt;BR /&gt;
36                   @ 102 NULL_IF_IBAN  $ebcdic1.&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;B&gt;37                   @ 103 DELV_ID  s370fpd6.&lt;BR /&gt;
38                   @ 109 NULL_IF_DELV  $ebcdic1.&lt;/B&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;
39                   @ 110 CREATED_BY  $ebcdic4.&lt;BR /&gt;
40                   @ 114 NUL_IF_2  $ebcdic1.&lt;BR /&gt;
41                   @ 117 REPORTING_IDENT  $ebcdic18.&lt;BR /&gt;
42                   @ 133 NULL_IF_ID  $ebcdic1.&lt;BR /&gt;
43                   @ 134 START_DT  $ebcdic10.&lt;BR /&gt;
44                   @ 144 VAL_START_DT  $ebcdic10.&lt;BR /&gt;
45                   @ 154 VAL_END_DT  $ebcdic10.&lt;BR /&gt;
46                   @ 164 UPDATE_BY  $ebcdic42.&lt;BR /&gt;
47                   @ 206 UPDATE_TS  $ebcdic26.;&lt;BR /&gt;
48         &lt;BR /&gt;
49         run;&lt;BR /&gt;
[/pre]&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
We have problem with the DELV_ID field which is defined as numeric and allow null values at DB2 end.&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
When we use the informat type as s370fpd6., it says invalid data, when we use pd5. it reads data but misses to show the last digit of the DELV_ID values.&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
Kindly revert, if you have difficulties in analysing the query that I posted here.&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
Thanks and Regards,&lt;BR /&gt;
AnjiREDDY</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 06:46:25 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://communities.sas.com/t5/SAS-Procedures/having-problem-with-missing-values-for-numerical-columns/m-p/65906#M18800</guid>
      <dc:creator>deleted_user</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2010-03-10T06:46:25Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: having problem with missing values for numerical columns</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/SAS-Procedures/having-problem-with-missing-values-for-numerical-columns/m-p/65907#M18801</link>
      <description>If you permit some type of NULL-VALUE field in your input data which is not correctly formatted for the specified SAS INFORMAT, you will need to code ?? prior to naming the INFORMAT.  Have a look at the DOC for details on its purpose.&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
Scott Barry&lt;BR /&gt;
SBBWorks, Inc.</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 12:05:14 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>sbb</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2010-03-10T12:05:14Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: having problem with missing values for numerical columns</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/SAS-Procedures/having-problem-with-missing-values-for-numerical-columns/m-p/65908#M18802</link>
      <description>We use SAS DI studio to process the data. Naturally we have used file reader transformation to read the data from external files.&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
Could you please explain, how we can use "??" to handle null values in file reader?&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
Thanks and Regards,&lt;BR /&gt;
AnjiREDDY.</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 13:38:57 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>deleted_user</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2010-03-10T13:38:57Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: having problem with missing values for numerical columns</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/SAS-Procedures/having-problem-with-missing-values-for-numerical-columns/m-p/65909#M18803</link>
      <description>I am unfamiliar with answering your DI-specific question about how/where to introduce the "??" parameter for "file reader" - possibly.  Are you getting a SAS ERROR or a NOTE/WARNING message when you run your program with INFORMAT s370fpd6.  specified?&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
Check the SAS Language Elements discussion on the INPUT statement and using INFORMATs - particularly, the topic on INVALID DATA.  The only relief it provides is to mask the condition in the SAS log, suppressing the warning message.  Consider though (I believe) you still end up with the desired result, a SAS numeric variable with a missing value condition.&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
Possibly there may be information here (or you may need to contact SAS tech support for guidance) - or just ignore the SAS log warning messages about INVALID DATA or INVALID ARGUMENT TO FUNCTION:&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;A href="http://support.sas.com/documentation/cdl/en/etlug/60948/HTML/default/p0rhnqjrb6tje9n1jyfk9h4kn386.htm" target="_blank"&gt;http://support.sas.com/documentation/cdl/en/etlug/60948/HTML/default/p0rhnqjrb6tje9n1jyfk9h4kn386.htm&lt;/A&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
Scott Barry&lt;BR /&gt;
SBBWorks, Inc.&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;BR /&gt;
Google advanced search argument, this topic/post:&lt;BR /&gt;
input statement invalid numeric data site:sas.com</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 10 Mar 2010 14:42:31 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>sbb</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2010-03-10T14:42:31Z</dc:date>
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