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    <title>topic Re: Why opposing results occured with categorical and continuous predictor ? in SAS Health and Life Sciences</title>
    <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/SAS-Health-and-Life-Sciences/Why-opposing-results-occured-with-categorical-and-continuous/m-p/415171#M2162</link>
    <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://communities.sas.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/52943"&gt;@Minhtrang&lt;/a&gt; wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Hi all,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I am running a Cox model with outcome as mortality, and predictor as Magnesium (Mg).&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;When I treat Mg as quintiles, p-value for this predictor is significant.&lt;BR /&gt;However, when Mg was entered into the model as continuous, p-value is &amp;gt;0.05.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I can not find an explanation for this difference. What are next steps to be considered?&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I would love to hear from your experience about this problem.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Thank you.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;
&lt;P&gt;There's no reason to think that a model based upon quintiles (in which you are throwing away data) will produce the same result as a model based upon the continuous variable (where you are not throwing away data). In fact, if you have the continuous variable values, I can't really think of a reason why you'd even want to use quintiles in place of the continuous data ... I doubt you could justify this to a reviewer or professor.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Tue, 21 Nov 2017 13:34:11 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>PaigeMiller</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2017-11-21T13:34:11Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Why opposing results occured with categorical and continuous predictor ?</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/SAS-Health-and-Life-Sciences/Why-opposing-results-occured-with-categorical-and-continuous/m-p/415062#M2160</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi all,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I am running a Cox model with outcome as mortality, and predictor as Magnesium (Mg).&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;When I treat Mg as quintiles, p-value for this predictor is significant.&lt;BR /&gt;However, when Mg was entered into the model as continuous, p-value is &amp;gt;0.05.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I can not find an explanation for this difference. What are next steps to be considered?&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I would love to hear from your experience about this problem.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Thank you.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 21 Nov 2017 08:09:58 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://communities.sas.com/t5/SAS-Health-and-Life-Sciences/Why-opposing-results-occured-with-categorical-and-continuous/m-p/415062#M2160</guid>
      <dc:creator>Minhtrang</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2017-11-21T08:09:58Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Why opposing results occured with categorical and continuous predictor ?</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/SAS-Health-and-Life-Sciences/Why-opposing-results-occured-with-categorical-and-continuous/m-p/415166#M2161</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;You didn't tell us the actual p-values.&amp;nbsp; For instance, .04 and .06 are not that different in strength of evidence.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Other things to look at:&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;--&amp;nbsp; Is the effect of mg linear?&amp;nbsp; A curvilinear relationship can show up as non-significant in a continuous setting.&amp;nbsp; Looks at your graphical diagnostics.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;--&amp;nbsp; There may be an interaction that you are not modeling.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;There are a couple of good SAS Books-By-Users that can lead you through exploring the relationships.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Doc Muhlbaier&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 21 Nov 2017 13:24:19 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://communities.sas.com/t5/SAS-Health-and-Life-Sciences/Why-opposing-results-occured-with-categorical-and-continuous/m-p/415166#M2161</guid>
      <dc:creator>Doc_Duke</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2017-11-21T13:24:19Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Why opposing results occured with categorical and continuous predictor ?</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/SAS-Health-and-Life-Sciences/Why-opposing-results-occured-with-categorical-and-continuous/m-p/415171#M2162</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://communities.sas.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/52943"&gt;@Minhtrang&lt;/a&gt; wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Hi all,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I am running a Cox model with outcome as mortality, and predictor as Magnesium (Mg).&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;When I treat Mg as quintiles, p-value for this predictor is significant.&lt;BR /&gt;However, when Mg was entered into the model as continuous, p-value is &amp;gt;0.05.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I can not find an explanation for this difference. What are next steps to be considered?&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I would love to hear from your experience about this problem.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Thank you.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;
&lt;P&gt;There's no reason to think that a model based upon quintiles (in which you are throwing away data) will produce the same result as a model based upon the continuous variable (where you are not throwing away data). In fact, if you have the continuous variable values, I can't really think of a reason why you'd even want to use quintiles in place of the continuous data ... I doubt you could justify this to a reviewer or professor.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 21 Nov 2017 13:34:11 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://communities.sas.com/t5/SAS-Health-and-Life-Sciences/Why-opposing-results-occured-with-categorical-and-continuous/m-p/415171#M2162</guid>
      <dc:creator>PaigeMiller</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2017-11-21T13:34:11Z</dc:date>
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