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    <title>topic Re: Need a job - biostatistician or SAS programmer in SAS Health and Life Sciences</title>
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    <description>Thanks for sharing the info with me - I am already feeling better about my career prospects &lt;span class="lia-unicode-emoji" title=":slightly_smiling_face:"&gt;🙂&lt;/span&gt; &lt;BR /&gt;
So what sort of jobs should I look for with a MS degree? I have been applying for many biostatistician and SAS programmer positions at major research universities in the US and they advertise a lot of positions for MS and quite often these positions are entry level. Of course, they only pay 50K for start, but I think it's better than nothing. Still, so far I only had one interview, and I was not offered the job. I aced all my classes and got a publication (analysis for epidemiology and outcomes research, nothing fancy) and all that hard work seems to be worth _NULL_ .&lt;BR /&gt;
Is going for PhD my only option in this situation? I am afraid that 4 years down the road my PhD might be worth _$hit_. I might then have to do 2-3 postdocs to get a job where I will be doing power analyses? &lt;span class="lia-unicode-emoji" title=":slightly_smiling_face:"&gt;🙂&lt;/span&gt; &lt;BR /&gt;
Please help me understand what's going on.</description>
    <pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 02:18:52 GMT</pubDate>
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    <dc:date>2009-07-02T02:18:52Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Need a job - biostatistician or SAS programmer</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/SAS-Health-and-Life-Sciences/Need-a-job-biostatistician-or-SAS-programmer/m-p/49527#M1387</link>
      <description>Can anyone give me tips on how to get a job as a biostatistician or a SAS programmer? I recently graduated with a MS in biostatistics and I have the base programmer credential from SAS. The positions I have applied seem to be highly competitive and there seem to be a lot of people with work experience in the job market. &lt;BR /&gt;
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Any suggestions?</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 26 Jun 2009 17:36:55 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:date>2009-06-26T17:36:55Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Need a job - biostatistician or SAS programmer</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/SAS-Health-and-Life-Sciences/Need-a-job-biostatistician-or-SAS-programmer/m-p/49528#M1388</link>
      <description>It's impossible to get a position as biostatistician with only an MS.&lt;BR /&gt;
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SAS Programmer positions are also scarce.  These positions have been in the outsourcing process for about a decade now, predominatly outsourced to India.  The majority of SAS programmer positions are via contract (6 months - 1 year) and require 5+ years of experience.&lt;BR /&gt;
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I am a prime example of how tough it is to get in.  I interned as a SAS Programmer in 2004 at a major pharma.  One year later after receiving my MS degree in Stats, I couldn't even get a call back for an interview at this same company.</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 01 Jul 2009 20:29:58 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:date>2009-07-01T20:29:58Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Need a job - biostatistician or SAS programmer</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/SAS-Health-and-Life-Sciences/Need-a-job-biostatistician-or-SAS-programmer/m-p/49529#M1389</link>
      <description>Thanks for sharing the info with me - I am already feeling better about my career prospects &lt;span class="lia-unicode-emoji" title=":slightly_smiling_face:"&gt;🙂&lt;/span&gt; &lt;BR /&gt;
So what sort of jobs should I look for with a MS degree? I have been applying for many biostatistician and SAS programmer positions at major research universities in the US and they advertise a lot of positions for MS and quite often these positions are entry level. Of course, they only pay 50K for start, but I think it's better than nothing. Still, so far I only had one interview, and I was not offered the job. I aced all my classes and got a publication (analysis for epidemiology and outcomes research, nothing fancy) and all that hard work seems to be worth _NULL_ .&lt;BR /&gt;
Is going for PhD my only option in this situation? I am afraid that 4 years down the road my PhD might be worth _$hit_. I might then have to do 2-3 postdocs to get a job where I will be doing power analyses? &lt;span class="lia-unicode-emoji" title=":slightly_smiling_face:"&gt;🙂&lt;/span&gt; &lt;BR /&gt;
Please help me understand what's going on.</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 02 Jul 2009 02:18:52 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://communities.sas.com/t5/SAS-Health-and-Life-Sciences/Need-a-job-biostatistician-or-SAS-programmer/m-p/49529#M1389</guid>
      <dc:creator>deleted_user</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2009-07-02T02:18:52Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Need a job - biostatistician or SAS programmer</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/SAS-Health-and-Life-Sciences/Need-a-job-biostatistician-or-SAS-programmer/m-p/49530#M1390</link>
      <description>It is tough getting a high paying job in this field, at least in the university setting.  I also have a master's degree, 10 years SAS experience and 68 publications.  I had to find a new job recently at a major university and nearly every job I interviewed for (7 interviews) said they could not pay me what I was making at my previous job.  So, I had to take something paying slightly less.  They can easily fill these positions with good, experienced people paying them 40,000-50,000 which makes all those years of raises worthless when finding something new.&lt;BR /&gt;
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This is just my personal experience.&lt;BR /&gt;
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Good luck in your job search.</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 20 Jul 2009 14:08:13 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>statadm</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2009-07-20T14:08:13Z</dc:date>
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