topic Re: When will batch submission be added to EG? in SAS Enterprise Guide

When will batch submission be added to EG?

dgritt — Mon, 02 Apr 2018 22:23:31 GMT

We have a homegrown solution, but it requires XCMD and we don't like to give that access out to all users.

Re: When will batch submission be added to EG?

Reeza — Tue, 03 Apr 2018 02:17:53 GMT

Note that I've moved your post to the EG forum.

Re: When will batch submission be added to EG?

SASKiwi — Tue, 03 Apr 2018 08:15:14 GMT

SAS already offers a number of ways to do batch submission and scheduling these jobs as well. This link explains some of the options:

https://blogs.sas.com/content/sgf/2013/08/14/four-ways-to-schedule-sas-tasks/

In addition recent versions of SAS Studio provide batch job submission as well.

My favourite way is using SAS Management Console as all the scheduling and batch functionality is server-based so it is very resilient and reliable.

Perhaps you could explain why you prefer EG to be your batch interface?

Re: When will batch submission be added to EG?

Kurt_Bremser — Tue, 03 Apr 2018 09:22:37 GMT

@dgritt wrote:

and we don't like to give that access out to all users.

Why? A properly administered server with a properly set up backup can never be in danger.

I can cause enough grief from SAS without using xcmd if the server is run by a donkey.

Re: When will batch submission be added to EG?

CaseySmith — Tue, 03 Apr 2018 15:30:22 GMT

We do have plans to add a background submission feature to EG in a future release, very similar to the one in SAS Studio. We do not know exactly when it will make it in though.

Casey

Re: When will batch submission be added to EG?

dgritt — Tue, 03 Apr 2018 15:38:46 GMT

Thanks

Re: When will batch submission be added to EG?

dgritt — Tue, 03 Apr 2018 15:40:18 GMT

We have security in place, but that doesn't mean limiting XCMD isn't helpful. We're not concerned with malicious uses by advanced users, but accidental things.

Re: When will batch submission be added to EG?

dgritt — Tue, 03 Apr 2018 15:45:02 GMT

SAS Studio wasn't around when we first had this need, but we do intend to introduce this after we upgrade to the latest version and due to security, Base SAS is not an option. Users do utilize the EG options in that post, but that's not true batch (logoff + background) and doesn't eliminate issues outside of SAS servers (networking, desktop, etc). It's also not feasible to have admins manage schedules for our large user base, especially when jobs aren't always repeated as-is.

We have a true batch option in place, leveraging XCMD and LSF (Grid), but it would be nice if EG had it built-in like Base SAS and Studio do.