topic Re: EG disconnect server - similar in base SAS? in SAS Programming

EG disconnect server - similar in base SAS?

RB1Kenobi — Wed, 05 Oct 2016 08:57:45 GMT

Hello

When I'm using Enterprise Guide (7.1, 32bit) I use the "Disconnect" feature within the server window to reset my session without having to close it. Therefore I do not need to re-open all the programs again.

Is there similar functionality within the base SAS (9.4) application?

Thanks

Re: EG disconnect server - similar in base SAS?

RW9 — Wed, 05 Oct 2016 09:04:37 GMT

EG is server based, so when you disconnect, it closes the image on server, and then opens a new one. An installed application on your desktop you can close with the X at the top right, then double clik the icon to open a new one. Effectively they are the same thing, although maybe one click or so more to aquire.

Is this perhaps that you are coding macros and your session falls over (unbalanced quotes or something). If so then the way I used to do it was save in SAS session, then batch submit the saved SAS file (right click on file, batch submit), that runs in its own enclosed session, so any errors or missing quotes are confined to the batch session.

Re: EG disconnect server - similar in base SAS?

RB1Kenobi — Wed, 05 Oct 2016 10:00:56 GMT

Thank you for your response. I have far more experience on EG than the base application and I'm trying to get up to speed with base SAS.
On base I see an option to "Remote Submit", is this a similar thing?

Re: EG disconnect server - similar in base SAS?

Patrick — Wed, 05 Oct 2016 10:20:35 GMT

Naming changes constantly but:

There is "Foundation SAS" - that's just the base license which you get always. And then you can add modules on top of it like SAS/Access, SAS/Connect, SAS IML,...

These are all the Server components.

And then there are the clients like SAS EG, SAS DI Studio, ....

The oldest client is the Windows Manager (I use to call this PC SAS even though it's not correct). This is just a Windowing environment which sits on top of your server - and that's why you can't "disconnect" from the server like with SAS EG where it's a client/server architecture.

You can use rsubmit (for which you need SAS/Connect) and spawn a child session. This way syntax errors like unbalanced quotation marks won't mess up your main session.

rsubmit executes server side so you could do the same using EG as client.

Sooo... I assume " the base application" means the old fashioned Windows Manager. Quite a few of the "old and very experienced guys" are stilll using this as their main client but if your not one of them then don't spend too much time to get into it. SAS Viya clients will be web based and there won't be a Windows Manager anymore (quite a change for some people...). Even SAS EG will cease it's existence as I understand it and will get merged into SAS Studio.

Re: EG disconnect server - similar in base SAS?

Kurt_Bremser — Wed, 05 Oct 2016 11:37:52 GMT

With Base SAS, the user interface (aka Display Manager) is part of the SAS session, and is discarded everytime the SAS session is closed.

With Enterprise Guide, the user interface is separate from the SAS session(s), so the list of programs etc (the "Project") can be preserved although the SAS session(s) is/are closed/lost.

So the answer to your question is no, at least for acceptable effort.

Re: EG disconnect server - similar in base SAS?

RW9 — Wed, 05 Oct 2016 11:39:18 GMT

I am going to take issue with the Old there @Patrick

You are correct though, desktop based installs are slowly disappearing in favour of web based systems.

Re: EG disconnect server - similar in base SAS?

Patrick — Wed, 05 Oct 2016 12:04:18 GMT

@RW9

LOL. I've been using "old" in the chinese meaning so it's expressing respect.

Re: EG disconnect server - similar in base SAS?

RB1Kenobi — Wed, 05 Oct 2016 12:05:46 GMT

Thanks all for the insightful comments, I look forward to Viya!