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    <title>topic Re: Repeated measures in Glimmix with incomplete block design in SAS Programming</title>
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    <description>&lt;P&gt;yes, try adding an intercept keyword effect to the first random statement and moving the rep and block(rep) into a second random statement with subject=tree and type=vc, fa0(1),&amp;nbsp;fa0(2) or chol options.&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;Also adding ddfm=kr2 to the model statement options might help.&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;I'm not sure if maxrank needs to be specified as a class statement - does it work as expected without?&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Fri, 09 Dec 2016 00:09:33 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>Damien_Mather</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2016-12-09T00:09:33Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Repeated measures in Glimmix with incomplete block design</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/SAS-Programming/Repeated-measures-in-Glimmix-with-incomplete-block-design/m-p/315987#M313178</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;I am analyzing disease data on individual trees. The dependent variable is a disease ranking (1-4; 1 being best, 4 being worst). The a priori model is complex and includes tree size at planting (size), breeding generation (generation), genetic family nested within generation (family; different families exist within each generation), and year (yr). Year is a repeated measure where data were taken at 0.5 year intervals for 5.5 years for each tree. We had a resolvable&amp;nbsp;incomplete block design, so replication (rep) and block(rep) are random effects.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I am not sure how to incorporate the repeated measures into the model considering I have other random effects. I know how to do with this with Proc Mixed, but my data distribution is multinomial, requiring I use Glimmix. Should I have two random statements?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I also would like to make sure the default&amp;nbsp;link function is what is most appropriate for the data.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I would like to make multiple comparisons and interpret differences among levels of each treatments.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Here is what I have so far:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;PRE&gt;proc glimmix data=blight14 method=laplace; ;
class size generation family rep block yr tree;
model maxrank= size|generation|family(generation)|yr /dist=multi cl oddsratio (diff=all label);
random yr rep block(rep) /subject=tree type=ar(1);&lt;BR /&gt;run;&lt;/PRE&gt;&lt;P&gt;Thanks for any help!&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 01 Dec 2016 16:17:20 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>StacyClark</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-12-01T16:17:20Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Repeated measures in Glimmix with incomplete block design</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/SAS-Programming/Repeated-measures-in-Glimmix-with-incomplete-block-design/m-p/317750#M313179</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;yes, try adding an intercept keyword effect to the first random statement and moving the rep and block(rep) into a second random statement with subject=tree and type=vc, fa0(1),&amp;nbsp;fa0(2) or chol options.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Also adding ddfm=kr2 to the model statement options might help.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I'm not sure if maxrank needs to be specified as a class statement - does it work as expected without?&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 09 Dec 2016 00:09:33 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://communities.sas.com/t5/SAS-Programming/Repeated-measures-in-Glimmix-with-incomplete-block-design/m-p/317750#M313179</guid>
      <dc:creator>Damien_Mather</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-12-09T00:09:33Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Repeated measures in Glimmix with incomplete block design</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/SAS-Programming/Repeated-measures-in-Glimmix-with-incomplete-block-design/m-p/318639#M313180</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Thanks! This helps. max rank should not be a class statement.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 13 Dec 2016 17:07:43 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>StacyClark</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2016-12-13T17:07:43Z</dc:date>
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