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    <title>topic Re: Getting group specific model fit values out of proc irt in SAS Programming</title>
    <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/SAS-Programming/Getting-group-specific-model-fit-values-out-of-proc-irt/m-p/188174#M304179</link>
    <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;I think you want:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;ods output ParameterEstimates=&amp;lt;some file name&amp;gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;to get the estimates for the two groups.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;In order to get separate fit statistics, you will have to run the model with BY GroupVar replacing group GroupVar.&amp;nbsp; However, this will not allow enforcing the equality constraints on the intercept between groups.&amp;nbsp; To enforce the within group equality constraint, you would probably have to run two completely separate analyses.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The point is that separate fit stats don't apply to the joint fit that employs the constraints listed--there are connections between the two groups that make the separate log likelihoods and any IC's not equivalent to two "parts".&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Steve Denham&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2015 19:40:49 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>SteveDenham</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2015-03-04T19:40:49Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Getting group specific model fit values out of proc irt</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/SAS-Programming/Getting-group-specific-model-fit-values-out-of-proc-irt/m-p/188171#M304176</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;Hello,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;i would like to perform a multi-group analyses with proc irt. In addition to get the overall fit values of the model, i like to get the group specific model fit values out of proc irt (like in CALIS Output 25.25.5; &lt;A href="http://support.sas.com/documentation/cdl/en/statug/63347/HTML/default/viewer.htm#statug_calis_sect114.htm" title="http://support.sas.com/documentation/cdl/en/statug/63347/HTML/default/viewer.htm#statug_calis_sect114.htm"&gt;SAS/STAT(R) 9.22 User's Guide&lt;/A&gt;). Has anybody an idea how i can reach my goal?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Many thanks.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Bye, Daniel&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2015 11:00:12 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://communities.sas.com/t5/SAS-Programming/Getting-group-specific-model-fit-values-out-of-proc-irt/m-p/188171#M304176</guid>
      <dc:creator>Daniel_Paul</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-03-02T11:00:12Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Getting group specific model fit values out of proc irt</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/SAS-Programming/Getting-group-specific-model-fit-values-out-of-proc-irt/m-p/188172#M304177</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;Would the multiple group example at&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;A href="http://support.sas.com/documentation/cdl/en/statug/67523/HTML/default/viewer.htm#statug_irt_examples03.htm"&gt;http://support.sas.com/documentation/cdl/en/statug/67523/HTML/default/viewer.htm#statug_irt_examples03.htm&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;for version SAS/STAT 13.2 be a start in the right direction?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Steve Denham&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 02 Mar 2015 20:04:26 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>SteveDenham</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-03-02T20:04:26Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Getting group specific model fit values out of proc irt</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/SAS-Programming/Getting-group-specific-model-fit-values-out-of-proc-irt/m-p/188173#M304178</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;Absolutely right, but running this example with the additional statement &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;ods output FitStatistics=sm.asgash_sgfdfd_mft_test&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;just produce fit statistics for the overall model, not for the different groups separately.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 03 Mar 2015 19:54:42 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Daniel_Paul</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-03-03T19:54:42Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Getting group specific model fit values out of proc irt</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/SAS-Programming/Getting-group-specific-model-fit-values-out-of-proc-irt/m-p/188174#M304179</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;I think you want:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;ods output ParameterEstimates=&amp;lt;some file name&amp;gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;to get the estimates for the two groups.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;In order to get separate fit statistics, you will have to run the model with BY GroupVar replacing group GroupVar.&amp;nbsp; However, this will not allow enforcing the equality constraints on the intercept between groups.&amp;nbsp; To enforce the within group equality constraint, you would probably have to run two completely separate analyses.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The point is that separate fit stats don't apply to the joint fit that employs the constraints listed--there are connections between the two groups that make the separate log likelihoods and any IC's not equivalent to two "parts".&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Steve Denham&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 04 Mar 2015 19:40:49 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>SteveDenham</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-03-04T19:40:49Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Getting group specific model fit values out of proc irt</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/SAS-Programming/Getting-group-specific-model-fit-values-out-of-proc-irt/m-p/188175#M304180</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;I see; so the fitting function is over the group, right? i know the multi-group fitting equation by Bock &amp;amp; Zimowski (1997; pp. 433-448), but this guy is only for completely restricted item parameters estimates between groups. no free parameters across groups are allowed in this equation. do you know a resource were the underlying fitting equation of proc irt in the case of multi-group is depicted? And: Are there a possibility in proc irt to fix the item parameters to some giving values? i know how i can do this for the slop parameters (just using the factor statement), but how can i fix the item difficulty/threshold parameters as well?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Bock, R. D. &amp;amp; Zimowski, M. F. (1997). Multiple Group IRT. Chap. 25, pp. 433-448. In: W. J. van der Linden &amp;amp; R. K. Hambleton (Eds.). Handbook of modern item response theory. Springer: New York.&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; &lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 27 Mar 2015 15:17:50 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Daniel_Paul</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2015-03-27T15:17:50Z</dc:date>
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