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    <title>topic Re: Mixed effects models: Manually specify individual intercepts in proc Mixed in SAS Programming</title>
    <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/SAS-Programming/Mixed-effects-models-Manually-specify-individual-intercepts-in/m-p/186411#M265699</link>
    <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;I assume that you are fitting the following:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;random intercept/subject=patient;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;This is functionally equivalent to:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;random patient;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Both estimate a single variance component due to patient.&amp;nbsp; There is not a different intercept for each patient that can be fixed.&amp;nbsp; The variance component estimates variability among subjectid's in excess of the residual variance.&amp;nbsp; Now, the BLUP for each patient can be estimated, but the baseline value is not the intercept in this sense.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;A good read here is SAS for Mixed Models, 2nd ed.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The infection status situation is probably best addressed as per your last statement, but through what is called a means model, it might be addressed as a time dependent factor. &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;What covariance structure are you fitting for the repeated nature of this design?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Steve Denham&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2014 19:24:44 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>SteveDenham</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2014-09-04T19:24:44Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Mixed effects models: Manually specify individual intercepts in proc Mixed</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/SAS-Programming/Mixed-effects-models-Manually-specify-individual-intercepts-in/m-p/186410#M265698</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;Disclaimer:&amp;nbsp; I am in the process of teaching myself mixed effects modeling, so apologies if I've not conceptualized part of the process properly.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I am attempting to model change in blood antigen levels over time vs. infection status for patients undergoing a certain therapy, using &lt;STRONG&gt;proc mixed&lt;/STRONG&gt;.&amp;nbsp; I have blood levels at baseline (t = 0) and at several different time points after initiation of therapy.&amp;nbsp; I also have infection status at each of those time points (infection/no infection), and that status can change over time.&amp;nbsp; It is my understanding that, in general, it may be potentially usefully to include the intercept as a random effect (i.e. different intercept for each subject) when searching for the 'best' model.&amp;nbsp; I'm my case however, since I have the baseline measurements, I already know the intercepts for each patient.&amp;nbsp; Is there any way for me to make sure these values are included in the model?&amp;nbsp; Does using the &lt;STRONG&gt;noint &lt;/STRONG&gt;option accomplish this?&amp;nbsp; Are there other procs that might allow me to manually specify the intercepts?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;On a related note, how does one interpret the effect of infection on antigen levels, when infection status can change over time?&amp;nbsp; Is it simply a matter of never infection vs. any infection?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Thanks,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Andrew&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2014 18:15:28 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>andrew_b</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2014-09-04T18:15:28Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Mixed effects models: Manually specify individual intercepts in proc Mixed</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/SAS-Programming/Mixed-effects-models-Manually-specify-individual-intercepts-in/m-p/186411#M265699</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;I assume that you are fitting the following:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;random intercept/subject=patient;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;This is functionally equivalent to:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;random patient;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Both estimate a single variance component due to patient.&amp;nbsp; There is not a different intercept for each patient that can be fixed.&amp;nbsp; The variance component estimates variability among subjectid's in excess of the residual variance.&amp;nbsp; Now, the BLUP for each patient can be estimated, but the baseline value is not the intercept in this sense.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;A good read here is SAS for Mixed Models, 2nd ed.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;The infection status situation is probably best addressed as per your last statement, but through what is called a means model, it might be addressed as a time dependent factor. &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;What covariance structure are you fitting for the repeated nature of this design?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Steve Denham&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 04 Sep 2014 19:24:44 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>SteveDenham</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2014-09-04T19:24:44Z</dc:date>
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