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    <title>topic Re: R side specification in Proc Mixed in SAS Programming</title>
    <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/SAS-Programming/R-side-specification-in-Proc-Mixed/m-p/107591#M258653</link>
    <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;I see a couple of problems that may lead to what is happening.&amp;nbsp; First, is this the complete dataset?&amp;nbsp; If so, enrolid and age are completely confounded.&amp;nbsp; If it turns out that this is the case for the full dataset, then the problem lies in correctly identifying the subject.&amp;nbsp; Try subject=enrolid*med, and see what happens in the growth model:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #000000;"&gt;proc mixed data= mult&amp;nbsp; covtest asycorr noclprint;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #000000;"&gt;class enrolid med t1 ;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #000000;"&gt;model adh = med age t med*t med*age /noint s;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #000000;"&gt;random med med*t /type=un sub=enrolid g gcorr;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #000000;"&gt;repeated&amp;nbsp; t1/type=ar(1) subject=enrolid*med;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #000000;"&gt;run;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;If this doesn't help, then maybe, with a larger sample dataset, we can come up with an alternative.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Steve Denham&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Thu, 27 Dec 2012 13:03:13 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>SteveDenham</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2012-12-27T13:03:13Z</dc:date>
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      <title>R side specification in Proc Mixed</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/SAS-Programming/R-side-specification-in-Proc-Mixed/m-p/107590#M258652</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P class="summary" style="font-family: Arial, Helvetica, 'Nimbus Sans L', sans-serif; color: #000000;"&gt;I am running multivariate multilevel growth model on SAS 9.3 (x64bit) with two random components (one for intercept and one for slope). I have two or more dependent variables (DV). My data are structured as follows in which med is the dummy for two DVs:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class="summary"&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class="summary"&gt;enrolid med adh&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; t&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; t1&amp;nbsp; age&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class="summary"&gt;1&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; x&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; 70&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; 1&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; 1&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; 45&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class="summary"&gt;1&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; x&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; 34&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; 2&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; 2&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; 45&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class="summary"&gt;1&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; x&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; 54&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; 3&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; 3&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; 45&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class="summary"&gt;1&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; y&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; 45&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; 1&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; 1&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; 45&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class="summary"&gt;1&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; y&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; 34&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; 2&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; 2&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; 45&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class="summary"&gt;1&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; y&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; 56&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; 3&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; 3&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; 45&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class="summary"&gt;2&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; x&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; 70&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; 1&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; 1&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; 66&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class="summary"&gt;2&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; x&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; 39&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; 2&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; 2&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; 66&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class="summary"&gt;2&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; x&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; 59&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; 3&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; 3&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; 66&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class="summary"&gt;2&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; y&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; 45&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; 1&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; 1&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; 66&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class="summary"&gt;2&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; y&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; 64&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; 2&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; 2&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; 66&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class="summary"&gt;2&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; y&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; 46&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; 3&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; 3&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; 66&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class="summary"&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class="summary"&gt;* Means Model;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #000000;"&gt;proc mixed data= mult&amp;nbsp; covtest asycorr noclprint;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #000000;"&gt;class enrolid med t1;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #000000;"&gt;model adh = med age med*age /noint s;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #000000;"&gt;random med&amp;nbsp; /type=un sub=enrolid g gcorr;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #000000;"&gt;repeated /type=vc group=med subject=enrolid;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #000000;"&gt;run;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class="summary"&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P class="summary"&gt;* Growth model;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #000000;"&gt;proc mixed data= mult&amp;nbsp; covtest asycorr noclprint;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #000000;"&gt;class enrolid med t1 ;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #000000;"&gt;model adh = med age t med*t med*age /noint s;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #000000;"&gt;random med med*t /type=un sub=enrolid g gcorr;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #000000;"&gt;repeated /type=vc group=med subject=enrolid;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #000000;"&gt;run;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #000000;"&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #000000;"&gt;The above models run. However, when I try to change specifications on the repeated statement it does NOT work (eg., infinite likelihood is assumed..., &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #000000;"&gt;non positive definite, etc)&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #000000;"&gt;. My data do not have duplicate rows. I am trying to specify a correlated R within each med type and I used '' repeated med/type=un subject=enrolid". Also, I tried &lt;SPAN style="color: #000000;"&gt;'' repeated&amp;nbsp; t1/ type=un group=med subject=enrolid", &lt;/SPAN&gt;it does not resolve&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #000000;"&gt;. &lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #000000;"&gt;Where am I wrong? Please help me with appropriate coding for testing an alternative/correlated R-side specification. &lt;BR /&gt;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 24 Dec 2012 17:15:39 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://communities.sas.com/t5/SAS-Programming/R-side-specification-in-Proc-Mixed/m-p/107590#M258652</guid>
      <dc:creator>brs2012</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2012-12-24T17:15:39Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: R side specification in Proc Mixed</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/SAS-Programming/R-side-specification-in-Proc-Mixed/m-p/107591#M258653</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;I see a couple of problems that may lead to what is happening.&amp;nbsp; First, is this the complete dataset?&amp;nbsp; If so, enrolid and age are completely confounded.&amp;nbsp; If it turns out that this is the case for the full dataset, then the problem lies in correctly identifying the subject.&amp;nbsp; Try subject=enrolid*med, and see what happens in the growth model:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #000000;"&gt;proc mixed data= mult&amp;nbsp; covtest asycorr noclprint;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #000000;"&gt;class enrolid med t1 ;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #000000;"&gt;model adh = med age t med*t med*age /noint s;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #000000;"&gt;random med med*t /type=un sub=enrolid g gcorr;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #000000;"&gt;repeated&amp;nbsp; t1/type=ar(1) subject=enrolid*med;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN style="color: #000000;"&gt;run;&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;If this doesn't help, then maybe, with a larger sample dataset, we can come up with an alternative.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Steve Denham&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 27 Dec 2012 13:03:13 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://communities.sas.com/t5/SAS-Programming/R-side-specification-in-Proc-Mixed/m-p/107591#M258653</guid>
      <dc:creator>SteveDenham</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2012-12-27T13:03:13Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: R side specification in Proc Mixed</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/SAS-Programming/R-side-specification-in-Proc-Mixed/m-p/107592#M258654</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;Thanks Steve! The actual dataset has more than&amp;nbsp; 2000 subjects with 4 or more observations for each enrolid for each type of med. My SAS is down until Jan 1 and I will inform you. Thanks again!&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 28 Dec 2012 01:04:43 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://communities.sas.com/t5/SAS-Programming/R-side-specification-in-Proc-Mixed/m-p/107592#M258654</guid>
      <dc:creator>brs2012</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2012-12-28T01:04:43Z</dc:date>
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