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    <title>topic Including all treatments in crossover design mixed model in SAS in SAS Programming</title>
    <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/SAS-Programming/Including-all-treatments-in-crossover-design-mixed-model-in-SAS/m-p/646517#M193431</link>
    <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi, I have a dataset effects of 3 treatments against ctrl on cell-lines collected from 4 donors.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;```&lt;BR /&gt;Treatment donor value log_val&lt;BR /&gt;Ctrl D1 xx&lt;BR /&gt;T1 D2 xx&lt;BR /&gt;T2 D3 xx&lt;BR /&gt;T4 D4 xx&lt;BR /&gt;```&lt;BR /&gt;I would like to compare the effects of treatments against ctrl and also with each other using a mixed model. I use the following mixed model in SAS:&lt;BR /&gt;```&lt;BR /&gt;PROC MIXED data=data;&lt;BR /&gt;CLASS DONOR TREATMENT;&lt;BR /&gt;MODEL log_val= TREATMENT/ DDFM=SATTERTH;&lt;BR /&gt;random DONOR ;&lt;BR /&gt;LSMEANS TREATMENT / PDIFF CL E;&lt;BR /&gt;estimate 'T/R' TREATMENT -1 1 / cl ;&lt;BR /&gt;run;&lt;BR /&gt;```&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;When I include all the treatments in one model I am getting higher standard errors than the case if I include only two treatments which I want to compare for different combinations of treatments. Which approach should I choose? Including all the treatments as once or including two treatments and repeating for different combinations?&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Sun, 10 May 2020 15:17:34 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>ph6</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2020-05-10T15:17:34Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Including all treatments in crossover design mixed model in SAS</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/SAS-Programming/Including-all-treatments-in-crossover-design-mixed-model-in-SAS/m-p/646517#M193431</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi, I have a dataset effects of 3 treatments against ctrl on cell-lines collected from 4 donors.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;```&lt;BR /&gt;Treatment donor value log_val&lt;BR /&gt;Ctrl D1 xx&lt;BR /&gt;T1 D2 xx&lt;BR /&gt;T2 D3 xx&lt;BR /&gt;T4 D4 xx&lt;BR /&gt;```&lt;BR /&gt;I would like to compare the effects of treatments against ctrl and also with each other using a mixed model. I use the following mixed model in SAS:&lt;BR /&gt;```&lt;BR /&gt;PROC MIXED data=data;&lt;BR /&gt;CLASS DONOR TREATMENT;&lt;BR /&gt;MODEL log_val= TREATMENT/ DDFM=SATTERTH;&lt;BR /&gt;random DONOR ;&lt;BR /&gt;LSMEANS TREATMENT / PDIFF CL E;&lt;BR /&gt;estimate 'T/R' TREATMENT -1 1 / cl ;&lt;BR /&gt;run;&lt;BR /&gt;```&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;When I include all the treatments in one model I am getting higher standard errors than the case if I include only two treatments which I want to compare for different combinations of treatments. Which approach should I choose? Including all the treatments as once or including two treatments and repeating for different combinations?&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 10 May 2020 15:17:34 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://communities.sas.com/t5/SAS-Programming/Including-all-treatments-in-crossover-design-mixed-model-in-SAS/m-p/646517#M193431</guid>
      <dc:creator>ph6</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2020-05-10T15:17:34Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Including all treatments in crossover design mixed model in SAS</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/SAS-Programming/Including-all-treatments-in-crossover-design-mixed-model-in-SAS/m-p/722548#M224063</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;adjust your model&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;1. add visit information if the dataset has it, like week information&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;2. include week in part of repeated statement&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;3.treat week, treatment and treatment-week interaction, baseline of val... as fixed effects&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;4. use cs, ar or un matrix to converge&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;.....&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 01 Mar 2021 09:18:32 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://communities.sas.com/t5/SAS-Programming/Including-all-treatments-in-crossover-design-mixed-model-in-SAS/m-p/722548#M224063</guid>
      <dc:creator>blueskyxyz</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2021-03-01T09:18:32Z</dc:date>
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