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    <title>topic Re: Encoding problem while reading delimited file in SAS Programming</title>
    <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/SAS-Programming/Encoding-problem-while-reading-delimited-file/m-p/547711#M151801</link>
    <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="https://communities.sas.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/159"&gt;@Tom&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;Thank you.&amp;nbsp;I &lt;U&gt;guess&lt;/U&gt; that the file&amp;nbsp;is in UTF8-encoding, because I tried reading the file in an UTF-8 encoded session, and&amp;nbsp;my data set looks fine, just like the VI cut in my first post, but I don't know how to determine the actual encoding.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;The binary reading in the UTF-8 session gave C2BD and C2B4 like my latin-reading:&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT face="courier new,courier"&gt;1 CHAR "813"#"Afsluttet"#"Klavs Hansen"#"Elev Â½ tid)"."4&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;FONT face="courier new,courier"&gt;ZONE 233322246767776722246677246676622246672&lt;FONT color="#FF0000"&gt;CB&lt;/FONT&gt;276622023&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;FONT face="courier new,courier"&gt;NUMR 2813232163C54454232BC163081E35E2325C560&lt;FONT color="#FF0000"&gt;2D&lt;/FONT&gt;049492A24&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT face="courier new,courier"&gt;2 CHAR 45"#"I gang"#"UU NordvestsjÃ¦lland"#"SSHÂ´er"."427&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;FONT face="courier new,courier"&gt;ZONE 332224266662225524676767776CA66666222554&lt;FONT color="#FF0000"&gt;CB&lt;/FONT&gt;67202333&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;FONT face="courier new,courier"&gt;NUMR 452329071E7232550EF2465343A36CC1E4232338&lt;FONT color="#FF0000"&gt;24&lt;/FONT&gt;522A2427&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;But now I am stuck again, because the same problem occurs when I try to get data into a latin9-encoded session.&amp;nbsp;If I copy from the UTF-8 encoded session with outencoding=latin9, I just get "Some character data was lost during transcoding, and the step terminates abnormally.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Our batch runs in Latin9. Of course it is possible to code the batch jobs to spawn other processes in UTF-8 to read the files, but data is going into a big data warehouse as input to an ETL process involving other data sets in latin-9 encoding. so data has to be brought in a usable form seen from a latin-9 session before that.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
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    <pubDate>Mon, 01 Apr 2019 19:46:30 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>ErikLund_Jensen</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2019-04-01T19:46:30Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Encoding problem while reading delimited file</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/SAS-Programming/Encoding-problem-while-reading-delimited-file/m-p/547690#M151797</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi everybody&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I have a problem with reading external files, and I hope that somebody with a better understanding of encoding issues can help me out. The files are exported as delimited files from an external system outside our control, and the files are in utf8-encoding, but contain some strings with a different encoding. We use&amp;nbsp;SAS 9.4M5 Linux GRID, with system encoding=Latin9.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I made a small test file (attached) . It looks like this in VI editor, and that is what I want as output:&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;"813"#"Afsluttet"#"Klavs Hansen"#"Elev &lt;FONT color="#000000"&gt;½&lt;/FONT&gt; tid)"&lt;BR /&gt;"445"#"I gang"#"UU Nordvestsjælland"#"SSH&lt;FONT color="#000000"&gt;´&lt;/FONT&gt;er"&lt;BR /&gt;"427"#"Afbrudt"#"Systemoverførsel"#"VVS´er"&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;When I read it into SAS with UTF-8 encoding, I get the national characters æ and ø in field 3 correct, but run into problems with the special characters in field 4:&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;PRE&gt;&lt;CODE class=" language-sas"&gt;%let file = /sasdata/udvk/data_beskyt/ungevejledning_beskyt/1_grunddata/eksterne_filer/test.txt;
filename ind "&amp;amp;file" encoding="utf-8";
data test; 
	infile ind dsd dlm="#" truncover;
	informat id 8. status $char30. source $char30. udd $char30.;
	input id status source udd;
run;&lt;/CODE&gt;&lt;/PRE&gt;
&lt;PRE&gt;NOTE: The infile IND is:
      Filename=/sasdata/udvk/data_beskyt/ungevejledning_beskyt/1_grunddata/eksterne_filer/test.txt,
      Owner Name=sasbatch,
      Group Name=torg-odk-sas9-etl,
      Access Permission=-rw-r--r--,
      Last Modified=01. april 2019 18:20:34,
      File Size (bytes)=141

WARNING: A character that could not be transcoded has been replaced in record 1.
WARNING: A character that could not be transcoded has been replaced in record 2.
WARNING: A character that could not be transcoded has been replaced in record 3.
NOTE: 3 records were read from the infile IND.
      The minimum record length was 43.
      The maximum record length was 46.
NOTE: The data set WORK.TEST has 3 observations and 4 variables.
NOTE: DATA statement used (Total process time):
      real time           0.02 seconds
      cpu time            0.00 seconds
&lt;/PRE&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Note that the problematic characters are lost, they are all translated to hex 1A.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-left" image-alt="enc1.gif" style="width: 428px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://communities.sas.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/28372iD5C6A4DFFD39D043/image-size/large?v=v2&amp;amp;px=999" role="button" title="enc1.gif" alt="enc1.gif" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;The characters are double-byte with hex values C2BD or C2B4 in this example. There are several others in real data, but all of the same type.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;If I read the files with system encoding (latin9), I get the two bytes, so they could be handled in the program, but I also get all the valid UTF-8 characters that way, as in the following example.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-left" image-alt="enc2.gif" style="width: 453px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://communities.sas.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/28373i7D2F817BDEEE93FD/image-size/large?v=v2&amp;amp;px=999" role="button" title="enc2.gif" alt="enc2.gif" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;The files are large, millions of records, and delivered daily, and we will every now and then get new double-byte characters, both valid and invalid in UTF-8, so it will be and endless maintenance task to read the files with latin encoding and idenfify and change all double-byte characters. So that is not really an option.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;But because the VI editor can display all characters correct, i think it should be possible i SAS also, so I must be missing something. All suggestions will be highly appreciated.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 01 Apr 2019 18:32:03 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://communities.sas.com/t5/SAS-Programming/Encoding-problem-while-reading-delimited-file/m-p/547690#M151797</guid>
      <dc:creator>ErikLund_Jensen</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2019-04-01T18:32:03Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Encoding problem while reading delimited file</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/SAS-Programming/Encoding-problem-while-reading-delimited-file/m-p/547691#M151798</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;You need to run SAS using UTF-8 encoding if you want to be able use UTF-8 text as character values. Otherwise SAS will try to convert the text to match the encoding you are using.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;So is the source file encoded with UTF-8 or not?&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;If not what encoding is it using?&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;What do you see in the file when you read it as binary?&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;PRE&gt;&lt;CODE class=" language-sas"&gt;data _null_;
  infile "&amp;amp;file" recfm=f lrecl=50 obs=10;
  input;
  list;
run;&lt;/CODE&gt;&lt;/PRE&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;You could try reading it yourself and parsing on the # characters and end-of-line characters yourself.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Perhaps converting the text to $HEX representations so you could work with it easier in a single byte encoding session without causing errors.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 01 Apr 2019 18:40:09 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://communities.sas.com/t5/SAS-Programming/Encoding-problem-while-reading-delimited-file/m-p/547691#M151798</guid>
      <dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2019-04-01T18:40:09Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Encoding problem while reading delimited file</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/SAS-Programming/Encoding-problem-while-reading-delimited-file/m-p/547711#M151801</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="https://communities.sas.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/159"&gt;@Tom&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Thank you.&amp;nbsp;I &lt;U&gt;guess&lt;/U&gt; that the file&amp;nbsp;is in UTF8-encoding, because I tried reading the file in an UTF-8 encoded session, and&amp;nbsp;my data set looks fine, just like the VI cut in my first post, but I don't know how to determine the actual encoding.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;The binary reading in the UTF-8 session gave C2BD and C2B4 like my latin-reading:&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT face="courier new,courier"&gt;1 CHAR "813"#"Afsluttet"#"Klavs Hansen"#"Elev Â½ tid)"."4&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;FONT face="courier new,courier"&gt;ZONE 233322246767776722246677246676622246672&lt;FONT color="#FF0000"&gt;CB&lt;/FONT&gt;276622023&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;FONT face="courier new,courier"&gt;NUMR 2813232163C54454232BC163081E35E2325C560&lt;FONT color="#FF0000"&gt;2D&lt;/FONT&gt;049492A24&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT face="courier new,courier"&gt;2 CHAR 45"#"I gang"#"UU NordvestsjÃ¦lland"#"SSHÂ´er"."427&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;FONT face="courier new,courier"&gt;ZONE 332224266662225524676767776CA66666222554&lt;FONT color="#FF0000"&gt;CB&lt;/FONT&gt;67202333&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;FONT face="courier new,courier"&gt;NUMR 452329071E7232550EF2465343A36CC1E4232338&lt;FONT color="#FF0000"&gt;24&lt;/FONT&gt;522A2427&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;But now I am stuck again, because the same problem occurs when I try to get data into a latin9-encoded session.&amp;nbsp;If I copy from the UTF-8 encoded session with outencoding=latin9, I just get "Some character data was lost during transcoding, and the step terminates abnormally.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Our batch runs in Latin9. Of course it is possible to code the batch jobs to spawn other processes in UTF-8 to read the files, but data is going into a big data warehouse as input to an ETL process involving other data sets in latin-9 encoding. so data has to be brought in a usable form seen from a latin-9 session before that.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 01 Apr 2019 19:46:30 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://communities.sas.com/t5/SAS-Programming/Encoding-problem-while-reading-delimited-file/m-p/547711#M151801</guid>
      <dc:creator>ErikLund_Jensen</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2019-04-01T19:46:30Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Encoding problem while reading delimited file</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/SAS-Programming/Encoding-problem-while-reading-delimited-file/m-p/547737#M151818</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;You are not going to be able to store more than 256 distinct characters into a system that is using a single byte per character.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;If you cannot convince everyone to just go back to 1980 and only use 7 bit ASCII codes then you will probably need to convert your database to use UTF-8.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;In the meantime you could try to build a process that will ingest the UTF-8 files into LATIN encoding and either reject the ones that don't convert or just live with the loss of precision in the data.&amp;nbsp; You might be able to store the full utf-8 text as hex or possibly using HTMLENCODE() function, but then the target field will need to be large enough to store the longer strings that would require.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;For example here s code to convert your current 4 column file with # delimiter into a CSV file with the values encoded with HTMLENCODE() function.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;PRE&gt;&lt;CODE class=" language-sas"&gt;data _null_;
 length x1-x4 $1000;
 infile "&amp;amp;path/utf8_test.txt" dsd dlm='#' truncover;
 file "&amp;amp;path/html_test.csv" dsd ;
 input x1-x3;
 array x x1-x4;
 do over x;
   x=htmlencode(trim(x),'7bit');
 end;
 put x1-x4;
run;&lt;/CODE&gt;&lt;/PRE&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Results:&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;PRE&gt;RULE:     ----+----1----+----2----+----3----+----4----+----5----+----6
1         813,Afsluttet,Klavs Hansen, 27
2         445,I gang,UU Nordvestsj&amp;amp;#xE6;lland, 36
3         427,Afbrudt,Systemoverf&amp;amp;#xF8;rsel, 34
&lt;/PRE&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 01 Apr 2019 21:00:54 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://communities.sas.com/t5/SAS-Programming/Encoding-problem-while-reading-delimited-file/m-p/547737#M151818</guid>
      <dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2019-04-01T21:00:54Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Encoding problem while reading delimited file</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/SAS-Programming/Encoding-problem-while-reading-delimited-file/m-p/548592#M152137</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hi&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="https://communities.sas.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/159"&gt;@Tom&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Thanks for your suggestions.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Unfortunately your last code example gives the same problem, when I run it. I get:&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;PRE&gt;&lt;CODE class=" language-sas"&gt;WARNING: A character that could not be transcoded has been replaced in record 1.
813 Afsluttet Klavs Hansen
WARNING: A character that could not be transcoded has been replaced in record 2.
445 I gang UU Nordvestsj&amp;amp;#xE6;lland
WARNING: A character that could not be transcoded has been replaced in record 3.
427 Afbrudt Systemoverf&amp;amp;#xF8;rsel
&lt;/CODE&gt;&lt;/PRE&gt;
&lt;P&gt;But your code only reads x1-x3. It translates the danish national characters in x3 to html, but they don't give problems. If I change to input x1-x4, the different problematic characters are all translated to a small right arrow.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;PRE&gt;&lt;CODE class=" language-sas"&gt;WARNING: A character that could not be transcoded has been replaced in record 1.
813 Afsluttet Klavs Hansen Elev &amp;#26; tid)
WARNING: A character that could not be transcoded has been replaced in record 2.
445 I gang UU Nordvestsj&amp;amp;#xE6;lland SSH&amp;#26;er
WARNING: A character that could not be transcoded has been replaced in record 3.
427 Afbrudt Systemoverf&amp;amp;#xF8;rsel VVS&amp;#26;er
&lt;/CODE&gt;&lt;/PRE&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Without translation, I my danish characters right, but the same result in x4:&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;PRE&gt;&lt;CODE class=" language-sas"&gt;WARNING: A character that could not be transcoded has been replaced in record 1.
813 Afsluttet Klavs Hansen Elev &amp;#26; tid)
WARNING: A character that could not be transcoded has been replaced in record 2.
445 I gang UU Nordvestsjælland SSH&amp;#26;er
WARNING: A character that could not be transcoded has been replaced in record 3.
427 Afbrudt Systemoverførsel VVS&amp;#26;er
&lt;/CODE&gt;&lt;/PRE&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Seven bit is not an option, because it does not cover the full danish alphabet, nor is changing our whole setup to unicode (30000 sas tables with 4000+ batchjobs + a huge amount of EG projects and user data), so I followed your suggestion and tried to&amp;nbsp;&lt;SPAN&gt;build a process that will ingest the UTF-8 files into LATIN encoding.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;I used iconv and tried to convert to&amp;nbsp; ISO8859-15, which is supposed to be the system encoding, but that didn't work either, so I tried to convert to&amp;nbsp; ISO8859-1. And then everything worked, and I got my SAS data without losing any characters. So now my jobs are up and running with a call to iconv before the data steps.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;SPAN&gt;So case closed, thanks to your suggestion.&lt;/SPAN&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 04 Apr 2019 17:47:35 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://communities.sas.com/t5/SAS-Programming/Encoding-problem-while-reading-delimited-file/m-p/548592#M152137</guid>
      <dc:creator>ErikLund_Jensen</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2019-04-04T17:47:35Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Encoding problem while reading delimited file</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/SAS-Programming/Encoding-problem-while-reading-delimited-file/m-p/548640#M152161</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;That's a good solution. Let iconv deal with the invalid codes and generate a readable file for the encoding that your SAS session and database are using.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 04 Apr 2019 20:15:28 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>Tom</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2019-04-04T20:15:28Z</dc:date>
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