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    <title>topic Re: Which Procedures to use for Elementary Statistics on a Data Set in New SAS User</title>
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    <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;
&lt;P&gt;6. Is the average GPA of the students different for EACH PAIR of 'Year of entry into College."&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;PROC GLM with the MEANS statement and the T and LINES options.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;
&lt;P&gt;If any student with High School Class Rank percentile less than 82 is categorized as hrank and lrank otherwise.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;- I used proc format to categorize the rank into the two categories of hrank and lrank.&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Wouldn't the proportion be 82% for hrank and 18% for lrank (unless there are ties)?&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;And so I am mystified by the remainder of the questions.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;1. Find the 99% confidence interval for the proportion of lrank.&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I used the proc freq procedure with tables along with the binomial and alpha options. The proc format made it so that it tests the lrank proportions first (order=formatted).&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;2. Is the lrank proportion larger than 50%?&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;used the proc freq procedure from the previous question and used the p-value to test whether it rejects or fails to reject null hypothesis = .5&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;3. Is the proportion of&amp;nbsp;&lt;/STRONG&gt;hrank&lt;STRONG&gt; larger then [sic] &lt;/STRONG&gt;lrank&lt;STRONG&gt;?&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;This one I do not know which ones to use. Is it a binomial proportion,&amp;nbsp;chisq&amp;nbsp;test, or something else?&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;There is no randomness here, so there is no such thing as an hypothesis test. By this I mean, if you take any data, from any distribution, and then if the percentile is less than 82 you call this hrank, you get 82% of your data in hrank, every single time (again, perhaps in the case of ties you get a different result). So the idea of an hypothesis is totally meaningless. Furthermore, the proportion in lrank cannot be larger than 50%, and the proportion in hrank HAS TO BE larger than proportion in lrank.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Sat, 22 Dec 2018 18:23:56 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>PaigeMiller</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2018-12-22T18:23:56Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Which Procedures to use for Elementary Statistics on a Data Set</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/New-SAS-User/Which-Procedures-to-use-for-Elementary-Statistics-on-a-Data-Set/m-p/523231#M4568</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;d&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 22 Dec 2018 20:55:04 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>JamesHawthorne</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2018-12-22T20:55:04Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Which Procedures to use for Elementary Statistics on a Data Set</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/New-SAS-User/Which-Procedures-to-use-for-Elementary-Statistics-on-a-Data-Set/m-p/523288#M4573</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;
&lt;P&gt;6. Is the average GPA of the students different for EACH PAIR of 'Year of entry into College."&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;PROC GLM with the MEANS statement and the T and LINES options.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;
&lt;P&gt;If any student with High School Class Rank percentile less than 82 is categorized as hrank and lrank otherwise.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;- I used proc format to categorize the rank into the two categories of hrank and lrank.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Wouldn't the proportion be 82% for hrank and 18% for lrank (unless there are ties)?&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;And so I am mystified by the remainder of the questions.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;1. Find the 99% confidence interval for the proportion of lrank.&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I used the proc freq procedure with tables along with the binomial and alpha options. The proc format made it so that it tests the lrank proportions first (order=formatted).&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;2. Is the lrank proportion larger than 50%?&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;used the proc freq procedure from the previous question and used the p-value to test whether it rejects or fails to reject null hypothesis = .5&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;3. Is the proportion of&amp;nbsp;&lt;/STRONG&gt;hrank&lt;STRONG&gt; larger then [sic] &lt;/STRONG&gt;lrank&lt;STRONG&gt;?&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;This one I do not know which ones to use. Is it a binomial proportion,&amp;nbsp;chisq&amp;nbsp;test, or something else?&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;There is no randomness here, so there is no such thing as an hypothesis test. By this I mean, if you take any data, from any distribution, and then if the percentile is less than 82 you call this hrank, you get 82% of your data in hrank, every single time (again, perhaps in the case of ties you get a different result). So the idea of an hypothesis is totally meaningless. Furthermore, the proportion in lrank cannot be larger than 50%, and the proportion in hrank HAS TO BE larger than proportion in lrank.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 22 Dec 2018 18:23:56 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>PaigeMiller</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2018-12-22T18:23:56Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Which Procedures to use for Elementary Statistics on a Data Set</title>
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      <description>&lt;P&gt;Wouldn't this just be a binomial proportion 1 sample test? Since the HSRANK would have different percentiles of &amp;lt; 82 ranking, and otherwise, per "Year that the student entered high school." Since you're taking random samples each time you test lrank/hrank wouldn't there be some difference in proportion? I am equally as confused with this set of questions.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 22 Dec 2018 18:27:45 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>JamesHawthorne</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2018-12-22T18:27:45Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Which Procedures to use for Elementary Statistics on a Data Set</title>
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      <description>&lt;P&gt;Perhaps we are interpreting this differently:&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;If any student with High School Class Rank percentile less than 82 is categorized as hrank and lrank otherwise.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I don't see how the percent of hrank can be any number other than 82, except in the case of ties.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 22 Dec 2018 18:40:10 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://communities.sas.com/t5/New-SAS-User/Which-Procedures-to-use-for-Elementary-Statistics-on-a-Data-Set/m-p/523294#M4575</guid>
      <dc:creator>PaigeMiller</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2018-12-22T18:40:10Z</dc:date>
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