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Running SAS in UNIX

sharuu_00 — Fri, 14 Jun 2019 21:12:58 GMT

I have UltraEdit software where I write sas programs and there is console in UltraEdit where seems I need to write commnds and run sas file. And once I write sas coding have to send to UNIX (by ctrl save) then run in console. I'm bit confused of understanding this.

So, UNIX AND SAS

THEN I have UltraEdit

Thanks,

Re: Running SAS in UNIX

SASKiwi — Fri, 14 Jun 2019 22:52:53 GMT

Why aren't you using SAS-provided development interfaces like Enterprise Guide or SAS Studio where all the required functionality is already available?

Re: Running SAS in UNIX

sharuu_00 — Fri, 14 Jun 2019 23:51:34 GMT

Thanks for the reply.

I would love to use and I have used those before.

At my current place, they run sas in UNIX. I have used before but bit confusing when it using via UltraEdit.

So, creating sas file in UltraEdit and have to send to UNIX (by ctrl save). Then, UltraEdit (SAS Server Application) console have to write command and run created sas file.

Anyone familiar with UltraEdit and Unix and SAS?

Thanks!

Re: Running SAS in UNIX

Reeza — Sat, 15 Jun 2019 00:00:33 GMT

It sounds like your work, for some reason has chosen to not use a client. You can configure it to run directly from ultraedit, but it does depend a bit on your SAS infrastructure. Your colleagues probably have the best answer on how to optimize your SAS usage.

https://blogs.sas.com/content/sasdummy/2017/08/25/npp-with-sas/

Re: Running SAS in UNIX

sharuu_00 — Sat, 15 Jun 2019 00:04:51 GMT

Thank you!

Re: Running SAS in UNIX

SASKiwi — Sat, 15 Jun 2019 00:14:00 GMT

With all due respect, your company seems to be working in the Dark Ages regarding SAS interfaces...

A simpler way to interact with Unix SAS would be via an X-windows session directly on Unix (using the SAS Windowing Environment) or is that not available to you as well? I've never used UltraEdit so I can't really help you with that.

Re: Running SAS in UNIX

sharuu_00 — Sat, 15 Jun 2019 02:16:09 GMT

I'm totally confused how they use. It doesn't seem SAS Windowing Environment.

So, in UltraEdit there are 3 part like 1) editor windows (smilier to sas edit window - where you could write programs)

2) File view - where all the files/folder's (similar to SAS explorer window)

3) console window - when I connect to console it shows intro message like "SAS Application Server" (where you could use commands to check what files in the directory, and so on ...like using UNIX commands)

SO, once ready to execute the sas program first I have to send that code to UNIX SAS(by ctrl save), then using command

for example: if the sas file name test

then I will have to type "SAS test" at the prompt and hit enter to run sas file.

Re: Running SAS in UNIX

SASKiwi — Sat, 15 Jun 2019 02:52:07 GMT

Here is a link to the documentation on the SAS Windowing Environment (and others) and how it works on Unix: https://documentation.sas.com/?docsetId=hostunx&docsetTarget=p1q3zgoxmti24mn1lfu3obkd6dse.htm&docsetVersion=9.4&locale=en

What do other SAS users in your company use to develop and run SAS programs?

My understanding is that UltraEdit uses FTP to send the SAS program to the SAS server, runs the program in batch mode, then FTP's the LOG and OUTPUT files back to your PC. Clunky is not the word...

Re: Running SAS in UNIX

sharuu_00 — Sat, 15 Jun 2019 03:01:09 GMT

Thanks for the link.. I have read that already and I'm still kind of not clear...

I'm not sure sas develop - what they do

But, SAS programmers using UltraEdit, SAS on Unix ...

Yes. UltraEdit use FTP to connect and connect to unix server or something - not clear here.

FTP -not clear as well

When you say "runs the program in batch mode" - I'm not understanding the batch mode meaning here

Yes, LOG and LIST files back to UltraEdit folders in FileView

Re: Running SAS in UNIX

Kurt_Bremser — Sat, 15 Jun 2019 04:58:01 GMT

When you have a UNIX-only installation without Integration Technologies, the proper way to use it is by connecting to the UNIX server with X-Windows and run SAS natively with Display Manager.

How do the other people in your organization use SAS?

Re: Running SAS in UNIX

sharuu_00 — Sat, 15 Jun 2019 16:09:55 GMT

Can you please explain in detail. I think that's how they are connecting. I'm the only one sas programmer there and new to the place.

They are using UltraEdit to write sas programs and sending to UNIX and running sas file on console by writing commands. and output and results seems back to file view folders in UlterEdit. But, How do I run a single query there? Like, we run a simple data step in sas edit window by highlighting.

Re: Running SAS in UNIX

Kurt_Bremser — Sat, 15 Jun 2019 16:44:00 GMT

@sharuu_00 wrote:

Can you please explain in detail. I think that's how they are connecting. I'm the only one sas programmer there and new to the place.

They are using UltraEdit to write sas programs and sending to UNIX and running sas file on console by writing commands. and output and results seems back to file view folders in UlterEdit. But, How do I run a single query there? Like, we run a simple data step in sas edit window by highlighting.

For that, SAS delivers the perfect IDE. It's called Enterprise Guide.

Seriously, your organization needs to take steps to arrive in the present. What you're doing now is so seventies .....

Instead of wasting time cobbling together workarounds and reinventing the wheel, invest in up-to-date SAS infrastructure. It pays off.

Re: Running SAS in UNIX

sharuu_00 — Sat, 15 Jun 2019 17:34:28 GMT

yeah, , I have used mostly up-to-date version and here seems so much different

Re: Running SAS in UNIX

SASKiwi — Sun, 16 Jun 2019 02:55:31 GMT

I suggest you get help from other SAS users in your organisation to set up UltraEdit correctly. They are in a much better position to help you than we are.

If you are having problems understanding the documentation then I'd suggest you need more training in SAS basics. This is beyond the scope of the SAS Community.

Running SAS in batch mode means you run your SAS program from the Unix command line: command line> sas MySASProgram.sas. It is that simple.

Re: Running SAS in UNIX

Tom — Sun, 16 Jun 2019 05:52:30 GMT

Sounds like you are creating complete SAS programs and running them from the command line.

UltraEdit is just a text editor. You could use Notepad. Vim. Any editor you want. It sounds like it also lets you look a the list of files on your system. There are many other tools for doing that. From just using ls command to GUI tools like WinSCP.

There are many advantages to running your programs in that way. Most important is that you then have a complete LOG of the full program execution from start to finish. This will avoid issues with code that appears to work, but then turns out that it is referencing things (datasets, librefs, filerefs) that were created by some earlier process run in an interactive session.

Re: Running SAS in UNIX

sharuu_00 — Sun, 16 Jun 2019 12:27:01 GMT

So... yeah. creating programs in UltraEdit software (Edit window) then to execute the program,

1) send that written program to UNIX

2) then , in console (UltaEdit) write command ( for example: "sas: space "your_sas_file_name" hit enter ) - this will run the sas program

3) then , you will see list and log files in FileView sections (you could open list and log files to check for - which appears in UltraEdit Edit window)

Now, my other questions is how to each single sas queries ? here in UltaEdit

It does't seem easy steps as running sas on unix without UltaEdit

Re: Running SAS in UNIX

sharuu_00 — Sun, 16 Jun 2019 14:37:46 GMT

Hi All,

Does anyone know where I can read and practice some basic tutorials of running sas on UNIX?

Thanks!

Re: Running SAS in UNIX

Tom — Sun, 16 Jun 2019 17:16:56 GMT

@sharuu_00 wrote:

Hi All,

Does anyone know where I can read and practice some basic tutorials of running sas on UNIX?

Thanks!

SAS code doesn't care how you are running it. Just ignore the parts of the manuals that talk about GUI related things.