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    <title>topic Re: White Noise inputs in forecasting ARMA variables in SAS Forecasting and Econometrics</title>
    <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/SAS-Forecasting-and-Econometrics/White-Noise-inputs-in-forecasting-ARMA-variables/m-p/133661#M771</link>
    <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;Hello -&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Even if you are not using PROC ARIMA for estimation, you may want to check out &lt;A class="active_link" href="http://support.sas.com/documentation/cdl/en/etsug/63939/HTML/default/viewer.htm#etsug_arima_sect015.htm"&gt;http://support.sas.com/documentation/cdl/en/etsug/63939/HTML/default/viewer.htm#etsug_arima_sect015.htm&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;and&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;A href="http://support.sas.com/documentation/cdl/en/etsug/63939/HTML/default/viewer.htm#etsug_arima_sect042.htm"&gt;http://support.sas.com/documentation/cdl/en/etsug/63939/HTML/default/viewer.htm#etsug_arima_sect042.htm&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;for some ideas.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Thanks,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Udo&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Fri, 10 May 2013 20:50:31 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>udo_sas</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2013-05-10T20:50:31Z</dc:date>
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      <title>White Noise inputs in forecasting ARMA variables</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/SAS-Forecasting-and-Econometrics/White-Noise-inputs-in-forecasting-ARMA-variables/m-p/133660#M770</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; background-color: #ffffff;"&gt;Hi All,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; background-color: #ffffff;"&gt;I have the following time series model for prediction purposes&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; background-color: #ffffff;"&gt;&lt;STRONG style="font-style: inherit; font-family: inherit;"&gt;Loss_t = b1* Loss_(t-1)&amp;nbsp;&amp;nbsp; +&amp;nbsp; b2*GDP_t&amp;nbsp; +&amp;nbsp; b3*W_(t-1)&lt;/STRONG&gt;&amp;nbsp; where W_t is the usual white noise variable.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; background-color: #ffffff;"&gt;So this is similar to ARMA(1,1) except that it also contains an extra predictor, GDP at time t.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; background-color: #ffffff;"&gt;I have only 20 observations on each variable except GDP for which I know till 100 values.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; background-color: #ffffff;"&gt;For predicting say, the 22nd value for Loss (i.e.Loss_22),&amp;nbsp; how do I input the value of the W_21 variable, because this variable (W_21) is generally proxied via the error in prediction (i.e. observed - predicted value of Loss) in the 21st stage, but since I don't know the observed value of Y_21, there is no way to calculate the error in this stage (21st) .&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; background-color: #ffffff;"&gt;Also, the way I have calculated the coefficients in the above model is non-standard (differencing, bootstrapping, ridge regression), hence I cannot use the general ARMA codes in SAS for prediction.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; background-color: #ffffff;"&gt;So it would be great if you could help on this method or let me know what algorithm SAS uses to solve this problem.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; background-color: #ffffff;"&gt;Appreciate your help.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; background-color: #ffffff;"&gt;Thanks,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P style="font-family: 'Helvetica Neue', Helvetica, Arial, 'Lucida Grande', sans-serif; background-color: #ffffff;"&gt;Preetam&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 10 May 2013 20:34:47 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>preetampal</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2013-05-10T20:34:47Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: White Noise inputs in forecasting ARMA variables</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/SAS-Forecasting-and-Econometrics/White-Noise-inputs-in-forecasting-ARMA-variables/m-p/133661#M771</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;Hello -&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Even if you are not using PROC ARIMA for estimation, you may want to check out &lt;A class="active_link" href="http://support.sas.com/documentation/cdl/en/etsug/63939/HTML/default/viewer.htm#etsug_arima_sect015.htm"&gt;http://support.sas.com/documentation/cdl/en/etsug/63939/HTML/default/viewer.htm#etsug_arima_sect015.htm&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;and&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;A href="http://support.sas.com/documentation/cdl/en/etsug/63939/HTML/default/viewer.htm#etsug_arima_sect042.htm"&gt;http://support.sas.com/documentation/cdl/en/etsug/63939/HTML/default/viewer.htm#etsug_arima_sect042.htm&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;for some ideas.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Thanks,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Udo&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 10 May 2013 20:50:31 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>udo_sas</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2013-05-10T20:50:31Z</dc:date>
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