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    <title>topic SAS/FS and SMAPE fit statistic in SAS Forecasting and Econometrics</title>
    <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/SAS-Forecasting-and-Econometrics/SAS-FS-and-SMAPE-fit-statistic/m-p/96292#M510</link>
    <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;Hi guys,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I want to use SMAPE statistic to assess fit quality of models.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;This statistic should be bounded between 0 and 200, cf. for instance &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;A class="active_link" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symmetric_mean_absolute_percentage_error" title="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symmetric_mean_absolute_percentage_error"&gt;Symmetric mean absolute percentage error - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Nonetheless, in SAS/FS, I do have values greater than 200; and this is not an issue about reconciliation as this also happens in a list project.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;IMG alt="SAS_FS_SMAPE.png" class="jive-image-thumbnail jive-image" src="https://communities.sas.com/legacyfs/online/2624_SAS_FS_SMAPE.png" width="450" /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Any idea?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Eric&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2012 08:10:53 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>eric_lecoutre_businessdecision_com</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2012-10-16T08:10:53Z</dc:date>
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      <title>SAS/FS and SMAPE fit statistic</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/SAS-Forecasting-and-Econometrics/SAS-FS-and-SMAPE-fit-statistic/m-p/96292#M510</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;Hi guys,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I want to use SMAPE statistic to assess fit quality of models.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;This statistic should be bounded between 0 and 200, cf. for instance &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;A class="active_link" href="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symmetric_mean_absolute_percentage_error" title="http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Symmetric_mean_absolute_percentage_error"&gt;Symmetric mean absolute percentage error - Wikipedia, the free encyclopedia&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Nonetheless, in SAS/FS, I do have values greater than 200; and this is not an issue about reconciliation as this also happens in a list project.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;IMG alt="SAS_FS_SMAPE.png" class="jive-image-thumbnail jive-image" src="https://communities.sas.com/legacyfs/online/2624_SAS_FS_SMAPE.png" width="450" /&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Any idea?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Eric&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Tue, 16 Oct 2012 08:10:53 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://communities.sas.com/t5/SAS-Forecasting-and-Econometrics/SAS-FS-and-SMAPE-fit-statistic/m-p/96292#M510</guid>
      <dc:creator>eric_lecoutre_businessdecision_com</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2012-10-16T08:10:53Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: SAS/FS and SMAPE fit statistic</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/SAS-Forecasting-and-Econometrics/SAS-FS-and-SMAPE-fit-statistic/m-p/96293#M511</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;Hello Eric -&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Some thoughts for your consideration:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;There seem to be many different definitions of SMAPE available (&lt;A href="http://monashforecasting.com/index.php?title=SMAPE" title="http://monashforecasting.com/index.php?title=SMAPE"&gt;SMAPE - Monashforecasting.com&lt;/A&gt;) - please note that SAS Forecast Server is not using the SMAPE definition which is published on the WIKI page you pointed to. You will find a details about SMAPE here: &lt;A href="http://support.sas.com/documentation/cdl/en/hpfug/63959/HTML/default/viewer.htm#hpfug_hpfdet_sect034.htm" title="http://support.sas.com/documentation/cdl/en/hpfug/63959/HTML/default/viewer.htm#hpfug_hpfdet_sect034.htm"&gt;http://support.sas.com/documentation/cdl/en/hpfug/63959/HTML/default/viewer.htm#hpfug_hpfdet_sect034.htm&lt;/A&gt; - look for MASPE (unfortunately some outdated terminology seems to be used still).&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Looking at your data I'm not sure if SMAPE an appropriate accuracy statistic, since your data seems to feature 0 values, which could cause numerical issues.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Also your actual values seem to feature large negative values, which could cause the SMAPE value be larger than 200.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I would suggest to report this behavior to Technical Support in order to track down the root cause of the problem.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Thanks,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Udo&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 17 Oct 2012 21:15:18 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://communities.sas.com/t5/SAS-Forecasting-and-Econometrics/SAS-FS-and-SMAPE-fit-statistic/m-p/96293#M511</guid>
      <dc:creator>udo_sas</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2012-10-17T21:15:18Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: SAS/FS and SMAPE fit statistic</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/SAS-Forecasting-and-Econometrics/SAS-FS-and-SMAPE-fit-statistic/m-p/96294#M512</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;Hi Udo,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Sorry for delays, went to hollidays.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Thanks for this input - I was not aware of the various possible definitions of SMAPE.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Something strange is that I do effectively have some TS with a value of 200 (upper bound of "my" definition).&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I don't find on google something on MASPE so I guess this is indeed old or erroneous info for a certain definition of SMAPE&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Anyway, I may go to another statistic -- come back to more classic MAPE I guess...&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Thanks again,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Eric &lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Wed, 24 Oct 2012 12:01:03 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>eric_lecoutre_businessdecision_com</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2012-10-24T12:01:03Z</dc:date>
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