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    <title>topic Re: Different results from Proc arima and proc autoreg in SAS Forecasting and Econometrics</title>
    <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/SAS-Forecasting-and-Econometrics/Different-results-from-Proc-arima-and-proc-autoreg/m-p/945505#M4870</link>
    <description>&lt;P&gt;Hello&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="https://communities.sas.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/467482"&gt;@sasalex2024&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;If you wanted to fit a ARMA(1,2)&amp;nbsp; model, then your PROC ARIMA code is correct. However, PROC AUTOREG does not support MA terms, and you cannot specify ARMA models in PROC AUTOREG. Your PROC AUTOREG is specifying a regression of consump on its own lag, and the error term in this regression follows AR(2) process. Please see the equations for regressions with AR errors specified in PROC AUTOREG:&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;&lt;A href="https://go.documentation.sas.com/doc/en/pgmsascdc/v_055/etsug/etsug_autoreg_gettingstarted01.htm" target="_blank"&gt;https://go.documentation.sas.com/doc/en/pgmsascdc/v_055/etsug/etsug_autoreg_gettingstarted01.htm&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;I hope this helps.&lt;/P&gt;
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    <pubDate>Fri, 27 Sep 2024 20:33:48 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>SASCom1</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2024-09-27T20:33:48Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Different results from Proc arima and proc autoreg</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/SAS-Forecasting-and-Econometrics/Different-results-from-Proc-arima-and-proc-autoreg/m-p/945500#M4868</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Dear SAS Community,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I am working with a dataset (please see below) and attempting to run a model with one AR and two MA terms. However, I’ve noticed a significant discrepancy between the results generated by PROC ARIMA and PROC AUTOREG. Below are the codes I used:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;PRE&gt;proc autoreg data=a;
model consump = consumplag / method=ml nlag=2;
run;&lt;/PRE&gt;&lt;P&gt;vs&lt;/P&gt;&lt;PRE&gt;proc arima data=a;
   identify var=consump;
   estimate p=1 q=2 method=ml;
run;&lt;/PRE&gt;&lt;P&gt;Any insights into why these two procedures are producing different results would be greatly appreciated. The data are shown below:&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;TABLE border="0" cellspacing="0" cellpadding="0"&gt;&lt;TBODY&gt;&lt;TR&gt;&lt;TD&gt;yr&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;consump&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;consumplag&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;/TR&gt;&lt;TR&gt;&lt;TD&gt;1920&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;39.8&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;/TR&gt;&lt;TR&gt;&lt;TD&gt;1921&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;41.9&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;39.8&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;/TR&gt;&lt;TR&gt;&lt;TD&gt;1922&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;45&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;41.9&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;/TR&gt;&lt;TR&gt;&lt;TD&gt;1923&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;49.2&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;45&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;/TR&gt;&lt;TR&gt;&lt;TD&gt;1924&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;50.6&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;49.2&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;/TR&gt;&lt;TR&gt;&lt;TD&gt;1925&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;52.6&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;50.6&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;/TR&gt;&lt;TR&gt;&lt;TD&gt;1926&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;55.1&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;52.6&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;/TR&gt;&lt;TR&gt;&lt;TD&gt;1927&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;56.2&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;55.1&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;/TR&gt;&lt;TR&gt;&lt;TD&gt;1928&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;57.3&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;56.2&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;/TR&gt;&lt;TR&gt;&lt;TD&gt;1929&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;57.8&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;57.3&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;/TR&gt;&lt;TR&gt;&lt;TD&gt;1930&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;55&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;57.8&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;/TR&gt;&lt;TR&gt;&lt;TD&gt;1931&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;50.9&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;55&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;/TR&gt;&lt;TR&gt;&lt;TD&gt;1932&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;45.6&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;50.9&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;/TR&gt;&lt;TR&gt;&lt;TD&gt;1933&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;46.5&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;45.6&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;/TR&gt;&lt;TR&gt;&lt;TD&gt;1934&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;48.7&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;46.5&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;/TR&gt;&lt;TR&gt;&lt;TD&gt;1935&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;51.3&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;48.7&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;/TR&gt;&lt;TR&gt;&lt;TD&gt;1936&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;57.7&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;51.3&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;/TR&gt;&lt;TR&gt;&lt;TD&gt;1937&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;58.7&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;57.7&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;/TR&gt;&lt;TR&gt;&lt;TD&gt;1938&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;57.5&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;58.7&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;/TR&gt;&lt;TR&gt;&lt;TD&gt;1939&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;61.6&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;57.5&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;/TR&gt;&lt;TR&gt;&lt;TD&gt;1940&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;65&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;61.6&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;/TR&gt;&lt;TR&gt;&lt;TD&gt;1941&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;69.7&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;TD&gt;65&lt;/TD&gt;&lt;/TR&gt;&lt;/TBODY&gt;&lt;/TABLE&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 27 Sep 2024 19:17:08 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://communities.sas.com/t5/SAS-Forecasting-and-Econometrics/Different-results-from-Proc-arima-and-proc-autoreg/m-p/945500#M4868</guid>
      <dc:creator>sasalex2024</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2024-09-27T19:17:08Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Different results from Proc arima and proc autoreg</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/SAS-Forecasting-and-Econometrics/Different-results-from-Proc-arima-and-proc-autoreg/m-p/945505#M4870</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hello&amp;nbsp;&lt;a href="https://communities.sas.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/467482"&gt;@sasalex2024&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;If you wanted to fit a ARMA(1,2)&amp;nbsp; model, then your PROC ARIMA code is correct. However, PROC AUTOREG does not support MA terms, and you cannot specify ARMA models in PROC AUTOREG. Your PROC AUTOREG is specifying a regression of consump on its own lag, and the error term in this regression follows AR(2) process. Please see the equations for regressions with AR errors specified in PROC AUTOREG:&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;&lt;A href="https://go.documentation.sas.com/doc/en/pgmsascdc/v_055/etsug/etsug_autoreg_gettingstarted01.htm" target="_blank"&gt;https://go.documentation.sas.com/doc/en/pgmsascdc/v_055/etsug/etsug_autoreg_gettingstarted01.htm&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;I hope this helps.&lt;/P&gt;
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&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 27 Sep 2024 20:33:48 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://communities.sas.com/t5/SAS-Forecasting-and-Econometrics/Different-results-from-Proc-arima-and-proc-autoreg/m-p/945505#M4870</guid>
      <dc:creator>SASCom1</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2024-09-27T20:33:48Z</dc:date>
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