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    <title>topic How do I Specify Transfer Functions Inputs in SAS Forecasting and Econometrics</title>
    <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/SAS-Forecasting-and-Econometrics/How-do-I-Specify-Transfer-Functions-Inputs/m-p/454278#M3080</link>
    <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="crossCorr.JPG" style="width: 600px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://communities.sas.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/19818i3F0658A85D8CC349/image-size/large?v=v2&amp;amp;px=999" role="button" title="crossCorr.JPG" alt="crossCorr.JPG" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I am having difficulty coming up with the transfer model inputs. Below is the code that I have so far&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;PRE&gt;proc arima data = sales plot(unpack);
identify var = x noprint;
estimate q = 2  noprint;
identify var = y crosscorr=(x) nlag = 20;
/*estimate  input = (3$(2)/(1,1)x) noint printall altparm backlim = -3 plot;*/
/*estimate  input = (3$(2)/(2)x) noint  printall altparm backlim = -3 plot;*/
estimate  input = (3$(1)/(1,2)x) noint  printall altparm backlim = -3 plot;
run; 
quit;&lt;/PRE&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;My question is how to come up with numerator and denominators based on the graph and differencing. I know b = 3$ since it is the number of periods it takes before xt affects yt&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;U&gt;For s and r , I am confused:&lt;/U&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;s is from my understanding the number of lags that reside between the first spike and the beginning&amp;nbsp; of the clear dying down pattern&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;since I have x and y with no differencing and I set s arbitrarily to s = 2 would I write&amp;nbsp; input = 3$(1,2)/(1,2)&lt;BR /&gt;r is from my understanding 1 if the lags die down exponentially after the spikes or 2 if they down in a sine wave&lt;BR /&gt;since I have x and y with no differencing and since from the graph r = 2 would I input in SAS input =&amp;nbsp;&lt;SPAN&gt;3$(1,2)/(1,2&lt;/SPAN&gt;)&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I am confused on what specifically (1,2) means: does it mean first order differencing and r/s being chose at 2 or does 1,2 mean how many lags before there is a spike&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;If anyone can help me interpret my graph I would greatly appreciate it .&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Thank you&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Sun, 15 Apr 2018 18:13:09 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>Dids</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2018-04-15T18:13:09Z</dc:date>
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      <title>How do I Specify Transfer Functions Inputs</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/SAS-Forecasting-and-Econometrics/How-do-I-Specify-Transfer-Functions-Inputs/m-p/454278#M3080</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;&lt;span class="lia-inline-image-display-wrapper lia-image-align-inline" image-alt="crossCorr.JPG" style="width: 600px;"&gt;&lt;img src="https://communities.sas.com/t5/image/serverpage/image-id/19818i3F0658A85D8CC349/image-size/large?v=v2&amp;amp;px=999" role="button" title="crossCorr.JPG" alt="crossCorr.JPG" /&gt;&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I am having difficulty coming up with the transfer model inputs. Below is the code that I have so far&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;PRE&gt;proc arima data = sales plot(unpack);
identify var = x noprint;
estimate q = 2  noprint;
identify var = y crosscorr=(x) nlag = 20;
/*estimate  input = (3$(2)/(1,1)x) noint printall altparm backlim = -3 plot;*/
/*estimate  input = (3$(2)/(2)x) noint  printall altparm backlim = -3 plot;*/
estimate  input = (3$(1)/(1,2)x) noint  printall altparm backlim = -3 plot;
run; 
quit;&lt;/PRE&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;My question is how to come up with numerator and denominators based on the graph and differencing. I know b = 3$ since it is the number of periods it takes before xt affects yt&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;BR /&gt;&lt;U&gt;For s and r , I am confused:&lt;/U&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;s is from my understanding the number of lags that reside between the first spike and the beginning&amp;nbsp; of the clear dying down pattern&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;since I have x and y with no differencing and I set s arbitrarily to s = 2 would I write&amp;nbsp; input = 3$(1,2)/(1,2)&lt;BR /&gt;r is from my understanding 1 if the lags die down exponentially after the spikes or 2 if they down in a sine wave&lt;BR /&gt;since I have x and y with no differencing and since from the graph r = 2 would I input in SAS input =&amp;nbsp;&lt;SPAN&gt;3$(1,2)/(1,2&lt;/SPAN&gt;)&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I am confused on what specifically (1,2) means: does it mean first order differencing and r/s being chose at 2 or does 1,2 mean how many lags before there is a spike&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;If anyone can help me interpret my graph I would greatly appreciate it .&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Thank you&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sun, 15 Apr 2018 18:13:09 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://communities.sas.com/t5/SAS-Forecasting-and-Econometrics/How-do-I-Specify-Transfer-Functions-Inputs/m-p/454278#M3080</guid>
      <dc:creator>Dids</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2018-04-15T18:13:09Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: How do I Specify Transfer Functions Inputs</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/SAS-Forecasting-and-Econometrics/How-do-I-Specify-Transfer-Functions-Inputs/m-p/454545#M3082</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Deciding the form of a transfer function relationship is explained in&amp;nbsp;a book by Pankratz, A. (1991). &lt;EM&gt;Forecasting with Dynamic Regression Models&lt;/EM&gt;. New York: John Wiley &amp;amp; Sons.&amp;nbsp; Also see Pankratz, A. (1983). &lt;EM&gt;Forecasting with Univariate Box-Jenkins Models: Concepts and Cases&lt;/EM&gt;. New York: John Wiley &amp;amp; Sons.&amp;nbsp; You can also check out professor Hyndman's blog on time series analysis:&amp;nbsp;&lt;A href="https://robjhyndman.com/hyndsight/arimax/" target="_blank"&gt;https://robjhyndman.com/hyndsight/arimax/&lt;/A&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Hope this helps.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 16 Apr 2018 19:32:50 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://communities.sas.com/t5/SAS-Forecasting-and-Econometrics/How-do-I-Specify-Transfer-Functions-Inputs/m-p/454545#M3082</guid>
      <dc:creator>rselukar</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2018-04-16T19:32:50Z</dc:date>
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