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    <title>topic I  cannot select seasonal soothing, Winter method (both additive and multiplicative) why?? in SAS Forecasting and Econometrics</title>
    <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/SAS-Forecasting-and-Econometrics/I-cannot-select-seasonal-soothing-Winter-method-both-additive/m-p/39121#M156</link>
    <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;I was trying to compare the perfomance of different smoothing methods in the time series forecasting system (TSFS). However, I could not select the Seasonal soothing, Winter method-additive, and Winter method-multiplicative for the series I was investigating. These three methods were all grey out, I could only select the other methods. When I tried fit models from list, I got the following notice: "error: model fitting failed. this model is not allowed for this series."&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I knew that all the observations in the series should be strictly positive if I want to fit a seasonal smoothing model, and they are all positive. I am wondering what could be the reason for this problem. &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Anyone can help?? thanks in advance&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Bich&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Fri, 29 Jul 2011 20:53:01 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>bich</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2011-07-29T20:53:01Z</dc:date>
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      <title>I  cannot select seasonal soothing, Winter method (both additive and multiplicative) why??</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/SAS-Forecasting-and-Econometrics/I-cannot-select-seasonal-soothing-Winter-method-both-additive/m-p/39121#M156</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;I was trying to compare the perfomance of different smoothing methods in the time series forecasting system (TSFS). However, I could not select the Seasonal soothing, Winter method-additive, and Winter method-multiplicative for the series I was investigating. These three methods were all grey out, I could only select the other methods. When I tried fit models from list, I got the following notice: "error: model fitting failed. this model is not allowed for this series."&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I knew that all the observations in the series should be strictly positive if I want to fit a seasonal smoothing model, and they are all positive. I am wondering what could be the reason for this problem. &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Anyone can help?? thanks in advance&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Bich&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 29 Jul 2011 20:53:01 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>bich</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2011-07-29T20:53:01Z</dc:date>
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      <title>I  cannot select seasonal soothing, Winter method (both additive and multiplicative) why??</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/SAS-Forecasting-and-Econometrics/I-cannot-select-seasonal-soothing-Winter-method-both-additive/m-p/39122#M157</link>
      <description>&lt;HTML&gt;&lt;HEAD&gt;&lt;/HEAD&gt;&lt;BODY&gt;&lt;P&gt;Hello -&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Usually this kind of behavior is caused by the data which is used. &lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Maybe it is a matter of having too few observations permiting estimation of the seasonal model?&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Best would be to contact Technical Support, so that they can help you identifying the issue.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Thanks!&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;Udo&lt;/P&gt;&lt;/BODY&gt;&lt;/HTML&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Thu, 18 Aug 2011 16:05:55 GMT</pubDate>
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      <dc:creator>udo_sas</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2011-08-18T16:05:55Z</dc:date>
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