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    <title>topic Re: Why SAS is not free ?? in All Things Community</title>
    <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/All-Things-Community/Why-SAS-is-not-free/m-p/604533#M4080</link>
    <description>&lt;P&gt;Who has a vested interest in solving &lt;STRONG&gt;your&lt;/STRONG&gt; problem when the software does not work as expected with a&amp;nbsp;'free' open source program?&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;The fees for SAS mean that you have access to actual tech support that is pretty darned good and will really work with you to solve problems.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;That's likely one of the things that can affect most.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Other stuff that goes on the background like benchmarking, testing and developing the algorithms for the procedures to run efficiently and accurately with large data sets may not be noticed. Until you try to use something no one actually tested with terabyte sized data sets.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I haven't used Python so can't address that specifically. However I have been involved with a number of open source programs and every one has severe issues with getting new users started and often just getting through installation is frustrating as you keep finding more dependencies not included in the installation or actually incompatible with something else you have because it requires an older or newer version of some infrequently updated binary file.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
    <pubDate>Fri, 15 Nov 2019 16:30:48 GMT</pubDate>
    <dc:creator>ballardw</dc:creator>
    <dc:date>2019-11-15T16:30:48Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Why SAS is not free ??</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/All-Things-Community/Why-SAS-is-not-free/m-p/604515#M4077</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Hello Guys,&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;It's been few years since I started using SAS for different data management stuffs and analytics .&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;so far in my experience I feel it is very easy to learn programming language/package for data oriented applications.&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I see lot of similarities between SAS and Python when it comes to data handling , but unfortunately SAS is not that popular now a days comparatively . One of the main reason I have relaised is &lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;EM&gt;"COST" ,&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;EM&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/EM&gt;SAS is not cost free like other languages , we need to pay and get license for all the packages and that stopping lot new programmers to pick SAS for ML applications (including me).&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I would love to use SAS for different Machine learning application if it is free of cost !!!!!!&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;I believe some one from SAS team may see this , I want to know why SAS is not free of cost for everyone atlease base SAS , you can make money for all other modules!!! &lt;span class="lia-unicode-emoji" title=":slightly_smiling_face:"&gt;🙂&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color="#0000FF"&gt;&lt;EM&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;WHY SAS IS NOT FREE OF COST ???&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 15 Nov 2019 16:03:57 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://communities.sas.com/t5/All-Things-Community/Why-SAS-is-not-free/m-p/604515#M4077</guid>
      <dc:creator>arunrami</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2019-11-15T16:03:57Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Why SAS is not free ??</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/All-Things-Community/Why-SAS-is-not-free/m-p/604520#M4078</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Most major software companies charge for their software.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 15 Nov 2019 16:10:49 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://communities.sas.com/t5/All-Things-Community/Why-SAS-is-not-free/m-p/604520#M4078</guid>
      <dc:creator>PaigeMiller</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2019-11-15T16:10:49Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Why SAS is not free ??</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/All-Things-Community/Why-SAS-is-not-free/m-p/604528#M4079</link>
      <description>&lt;BLOCKQUOTE&gt;&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;a href="https://communities.sas.com/t5/user/viewprofilepage/user-id/200330"&gt;@arunrami&lt;/a&gt;&amp;nbsp;wrote:&lt;BR /&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Hello Guys,&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;It's been few years since I started using SAS for different data management stuffs and analytics .&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;so far in my experience I feel it is very easy to learn programming language/package for data oriented applications.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I see lot of similarities between SAS and Python when it comes to data handling , but unfortunately SAS is not that popular now a days comparatively . One of the main reason I have relaised is &lt;STRONG&gt;&lt;EM&gt;"COST" ,&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;EM&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/EM&gt;SAS is not cost free like other languages , we need to pay and get license for all the packages and that stopping lot new programmers to pick SAS for ML applications (including me).&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I would love to use SAS for different Machine learning application if it is free of cost !!!!!!&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I believe some one from SAS team may see this , I want to know why SAS is not free of cost for everyone atlease base SAS , you can make money for all other modules!!! &lt;span class="lia-unicode-emoji" title=":slightly_smiling_face:"&gt;🙂&lt;/span&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color="#0000FF"&gt;&lt;EM&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;WHY SAS IS NOT FREE OF COST ???&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/EM&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;HR /&gt;&lt;/BLOCKQUOTE&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;FONT color="#0000FF"&gt;&lt;STRONG&gt;Because people like to get paid for their work.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/STRONG&gt;&lt;/FONT&gt;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Would you like to work for free and give away everything you do?&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;FOSS is primarily driven by academics who are paid with public funds and companies who usually leverage this for free and don't pay developers. Some people turn this into jobs but not all. Free Open source has many issues itself - primarily, support for packages, too many packages for common tasks, dependency hell. It also sucks to use software where there is little to no backwards compatibility especially when you're building a business.&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 15 Nov 2019 16:25:45 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://communities.sas.com/t5/All-Things-Community/Why-SAS-is-not-free/m-p/604528#M4079</guid>
      <dc:creator>Reeza</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2019-11-15T16:25:45Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Why SAS is not free ??</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/All-Things-Community/Why-SAS-is-not-free/m-p/604533#M4080</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;Who has a vested interest in solving &lt;STRONG&gt;your&lt;/STRONG&gt; problem when the software does not work as expected with a&amp;nbsp;'free' open source program?&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;The fees for SAS mean that you have access to actual tech support that is pretty darned good and will really work with you to solve problems.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;That's likely one of the things that can affect most.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;Other stuff that goes on the background like benchmarking, testing and developing the algorithms for the procedures to run efficiently and accurately with large data sets may not be noticed. Until you try to use something no one actually tested with terabyte sized data sets.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;I haven't used Python so can't address that specifically. However I have been involved with a number of open source programs and every one has severe issues with getting new users started and often just getting through installation is frustrating as you keep finding more dependencies not included in the installation or actually incompatible with something else you have because it requires an older or newer version of some infrequently updated binary file.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 15 Nov 2019 16:30:48 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://communities.sas.com/t5/All-Things-Community/Why-SAS-is-not-free/m-p/604533#M4080</guid>
      <dc:creator>ballardw</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2019-11-15T16:30:48Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Why SAS is not free ??</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/All-Things-Community/Why-SAS-is-not-free/m-p/604536#M4081</link>
      <description>And SAS maintenance cost are similar to RStudio Pro or Anaconda by the way, so not out of the ballpark of what enterprise companies use. &lt;BR /&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 15 Nov 2019 16:35:03 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://communities.sas.com/t5/All-Things-Community/Why-SAS-is-not-free/m-p/604536#M4081</guid>
      <dc:creator>Reeza</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2019-11-15T16:35:03Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Why SAS is not free ??</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/All-Things-Community/Why-SAS-is-not-free/m-p/604602#M4082</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;And I want a unicorn.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Fri, 15 Nov 2019 19:39:36 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://communities.sas.com/t5/All-Things-Community/Why-SAS-is-not-free/m-p/604602#M4082</guid>
      <dc:creator>Kurt_Bremser</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2019-11-15T19:39:36Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Why SAS is not free ??</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/All-Things-Community/Why-SAS-is-not-free/m-p/604670#M4083</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;SAS spends hundreds of millions of dollars enhancing and improving their software, including its machine-learning capabilities. The money to pay for this has to come from somewhere.&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Sat, 16 Nov 2019 07:05:12 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://communities.sas.com/t5/All-Things-Community/Why-SAS-is-not-free/m-p/604670#M4083</guid>
      <dc:creator>SASKiwi</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2019-11-16T07:05:12Z</dc:date>
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      <title>Re: Why SAS is not free ??</title>
      <link>https://communities.sas.com/t5/All-Things-Community/Why-SAS-is-not-free/m-p/605010#M4094</link>
      <description>&lt;P&gt;SAS does have free offerings, especially for learning and research.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&lt;A href="https://www.sas.com/en_us/software/university-edition.html#" target="_self"&gt;Check out SAS University Edition&lt;/A&gt;, free for any learner (not just those enrolled in university).&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;And if you don't want to install anything but run SAS in the cloud, &lt;A href="https://www.sas.com/en_us/software/on-demand-for-academics.html" target="_self"&gt;we have SAS OnDemand for Academics&lt;/A&gt;.&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;
&lt;P&gt;&amp;nbsp;&lt;/P&gt;</description>
      <pubDate>Mon, 18 Nov 2019 14:12:52 GMT</pubDate>
      <guid>https://communities.sas.com/t5/All-Things-Community/Why-SAS-is-not-free/m-p/605010#M4094</guid>
      <dc:creator>ChrisHemedinger</dc:creator>
      <dc:date>2019-11-18T14:12:52Z</dc:date>
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